On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 18:07:26 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
<[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:34:06 +1000 David Seikel <[email protected]>
> said:
> 
> > On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 11:56:50 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 10:56:13 +0000 [email protected] (Stefano
> > > M.) said:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > I build EFL and Enlightenment from git using the PKGBUILD files
> > > > provided.
> > > > 
> > > > I currently have installed:
> > > > 
> > > > - enlightenment-git 0.19.99.20768.64ceff5-1
> > > > - efl-git 1.16.99.32217.69a8de5-1
> > > > - elementary-git 1.16.99.12276.779b834-1
> > > > 
> > > > The system works OK, but when I open the Enlightenment settings
> > > > panel the window is empty or it shows a snapshot of whatever is
> > > > in the background (e.g. web browser). This happens with any
> > > > Enlightenment setting window: screen blanking, window remembers,
> > > > etc.
> > > > 
> > > > Any ideas of what might be causing this? I will be happy to
> > > > provide you with more information if you need.
> > > 
> > > actually... do you have a "hybrid graphics" system? like nvidia +
> > > intel or ati
> > > + intel? just a hunch...
> > 
> > It's possible to have such a graphics system and not know about it.
> > For instance nVidia GTX xxxM (where xxx is a normal nVidia graphics
> > system model), have an Intel chip as the front end.  These are
> > called Optimus, and are made mostly for laptops.  The idea being
> > that if you don't need the grunt of the nVidia side of things, they
> > just run the Intel side of things, using less power, making your
> > battery life longer.  The "M" at the end is a dead give away, even
> > if otherwise never mentioned.
> 
> lspci ... you'd know it. intel graphics and nvidia graphics - most
> likely. :) i actually don't have any laptop with hybrid gfx. so all
> my systems work. the other guy who has such issues does have a hybrid
> system - it works on all his other machines except this one.
> 
> i am wondering if this is the pattern. as such we don't drive or have
> much to do with the actual back-end of this. we deal with glx+gl or
> egl+gles - what it runs on is below this layer. though we do bypass
> down to this layer for vsync events (direct to drm device).
> 
> right now i am trying to find out what is common among those with this
> problem, as i see zero issues on any machine i have - across 3
> different intel systems (with different cpu/gpu types and
> generations), an ati machine (pure ati - an old core 2 duo laptop)
> and 2 nvidia desktops. zero issues. :/
> 
> i can keep hunting. i can try my other nvidia laptop where it
> actually uses nouveau drivers ... but i suspect it'll work too.

I have an ASUS ROG GR6 on my desk, with an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M.  The
only device I have with one of those hybrid graphics systems.  It
belongs to a client, with Windows 8.1 on it, and it wont be getting
any other OS installed on it.  So I can't test out Enlightenment on it.

It's likely that after this project is finished, I might buy it from
the client, to be used as a Windows development box for my virtual
world work (which is what the client has me doing anyway).  Then I'll
be getting EFL running on it under Windows (not something the client
wants), and I could dual boot it into Linux at that time to help out
with this, if it's still needed.

I gotta be busy with this current contract though, tight deadline and a
lot of work to get through.

> :/ WHY does this happen?
> 
> > Oculus Rift developers are having a hard time with these, as Oculus
> > has dropped support for them, though laptops are popular for demos,
> > coz it's easier to carry one around.  I had a hard time with one,
> > before I discovered that the client will be using laptops for their
> > Rift stuff, so we decided to stick with the last Rift SDK that
> > supported nVidia Optimus.
> > 
> > I have no idea what the ATI versions are like.

-- 
A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants
coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world.

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