On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 21:26:21 -0600 William <[email protected]> said:

check /etc/enlightenment/sysactions.conf

it's text. it's documented. this is a file you should modify to integrate e
into your system. thre packger should have done it - if they didn't... then you
have to. you may have to modify what command to use for suspend (or hibernate)
so it runs the right one on your os. this file also determines permissioning on
who can run what.

> That's what I meant by power options, except suspend to ram. I believe 
> suspend to disk would be hibernate. Initially after install, everything 
> was grayed out except log off, reboot, and power off, so I had to log 
> out to lightdm and suspend my computer from there. So I finally issued 
> the following command:
> 
> sudo chmod 4755 /usr/lib/enlightenment/utils/enlightenment_sys
> 
> And logged out and back in. After that, nothing was grayed out - however 
> selecting the option to suspend resulted in a black screen with a 
> movable cursor and a computer that was still chugging away. I had to 
> drop into a console, kill a bunch of stuff and then bring lightdm back 
> up. Since that was a bit of a disaster, I have since been issuing the 
> command " sudo pm-suspend" in a terminal and the system suspends just 
> fine - thankfully. I have Googled endlessly about this issue and it 
> seems a lot of people are having the exact same problem with E18.  From 
> what I have found, Rasterman is aware of the issue and a bug report was 
> filed about a month ago.
> 
> I haven't compiled 18.3 yet, but I did not see this on the list of bug 
> fixes. BTW - no more system instability issues. If you have any further 
> input on the issue it would be welcome.
> 
> Goodnight,
> 
> William
> 
> On 01/28/2014 07:54 PM, Dave wrote:
> >   Not sure what you mean by power options.  I thought you were talking about
> > suspend to disk.  That's there.  I believe it works, though I don't use it
> > myself.  You do see that option in the System menu, don't you?  If it
> > doesn't work, then it's probably because your enlightenment_sys isn't set
> > SUID. Check your lib/enlightenment/utils/enlightenment_sys binary.
> >
> >   The latest stable E was 18.2.  Up to last night, that is.  I'm sure you've
> > seen the 18.3 announcement now.
> >
> >   Cheers,
> >   dave.k
> >
> >   
> >   
> >
> >   In the year 2014, of the month of January, on the 28th day, William wrote:
> >> I had been experiencing the f1 error. Also complete freezes where I had
> >> to press alt + f1 to get into a console and kill everything. Most often,
> >> applications would crash in tiled mode if I tried to move them around.
> >>
> >> After I sent my message to the list, I re-installed Enlightenment using
> >> synaptic and checked a few things that were not initially installed, but
> >> sounded important. Fortunately my configuration was saved. I know
> >> something is different. Prior to the re-install, every time I right
> >> clicked an image and select Shotwell my system would completely freeze
> >> and I would have to go into a console, sometimes hit the power button.
> >> That problem is gone after the re-install so I am hopeful.
> >>
> >> The lack of power options is still nagging though.
> >>
> >> You mentioned 18.2. Is that the latest because it's what I am running.
> >>
> >> For the record it's an NVIDIA GT 610 with the latest 331.2 drivers and
> >> kernel 3.12.6
> >>
> >> If problems return, I will better document them.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> William
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 01/28/2014 07:27 AM, Dave wrote:
> >>>    Hi William.  I find E18 to be more stable than E17, so I'd recommend
> >>> you stick with that.
> >>>
> >>>    As for crashes, are you talking about WM crashes, where you're
> >>> prompted to hit F1 to restart?  Or are you talking about Linux kernel
> >>> crashes?  In which case, it could be the video driver responsible.
> >>>
> >>>    When diagnosing a crash, it's usually helpful to get a list of your OS,
> >>> video hardware, video driver, hmmm, maybe kernel version as well.  Any
> >>> relevent error messages would be nice too.  Check out
> >>> your .xsession-errors file for those.
> >>>
> >>>    If you can replicate the crash consistently, then give us the steps to
> >>> do so, and we'll see if we can do it as well.
> >>>
> >>>    Honestly, I'm a bit surprised that E18 is crashing.  I've been using
> >>> it for ... checking the datestamp on the executable ... a month?  No,
> >>> wait, that's E18.2.  I used a few alpha releases months before that, and
> >>> never had a crash.  Then again, I've never used the suspend feature, so
> >>> if that's what's triggering the instability, it's out of my field of
> >>> experience.
> >>>
> >>>    Updates?  Well, haven't played with this myself, but looking at the
> >>> source code, seems like it's a base of 1 hour, multiplied by some "later"
> >>> config number.  No idea about this, as I haven't enabled the check, and I
> >>> can't find any place to configure it in the settings.
> >>>
> >>>    I know what you mean about Enlightenment.  I've tweaked it to suit my
> >>> style and taste.  It works so well, I can't imagine using anything else.
> >>> To me, other windowing systems feel clunky and inconvenient.
> >>>
> >>>    Cheers,
> >>>    dave.k
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>    In the year 2014, of the month of January, on the 28th day, William
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Hello all,
> >>>>
> >>>> I have been following the Enlightenment project since day one. However,
> >>>> I have not actually used it in over a decade - until now. Perhaps I was
> >>>> feeling nostalgic, but for whatever reason I recently decided to take
> >>>> E18 for a spin. I turns out that I absolutely love it, and it has pretty
> >>>> much taken over as my DE. Unfortunately I didn't research what I was
> >>>> getting into, and honestly at the time was expecting to take a look and
> >>>> then toss it for my usual system. So it turns E18 is a bit on the buggy
> >>>> side with the occasional application and complete system crashes along
> >>>> misc. odd behavior and most of the power options not available. At one
> >>>> point I tried to downgrade to E17 (Ubuntu 12.04 based system), but that
> >>>> did not go well. I have everything set up the way I want and will
> >>>> subscribe to your other lists to keep track of development. I have
> >>>> developed something of a "golden path" work flow that greatly minimizes
> >>>> crashes, but I wondering if there is any way at all to get the power
> >>>> options working. It would be nice to suspend my computer without closing
> >>>> everything and backing out to lightdm.
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, when I installed E18, I allowed it to check for updates. What is
> >>>> the frequency of checks, and is there a system update function I should
> >>>> be manually running from time to time?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> William
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