That's what I meant by power options, except suspend to ram. I believe 
suspend to disk would be hibernate. Initially after install, everything 
was grayed out except log off, reboot, and power off, so I had to log 
out to lightdm and suspend my computer from there. So I finally issued 
the following command:

sudo chmod 4755 /usr/lib/enlightenment/utils/enlightenment_sys

And logged out and back in. After that, nothing was grayed out - however 
selecting the option to suspend resulted in a black screen with a 
movable cursor and a computer that was still chugging away. I had to 
drop into a console, kill a bunch of stuff and then bring lightdm back 
up. Since that was a bit of a disaster, I have since been issuing the 
command " sudo pm-suspend" in a terminal and the system suspends just 
fine - thankfully. I have Googled endlessly about this issue and it 
seems a lot of people are having the exact same problem with E18.  From 
what I have found, Rasterman is aware of the issue and a bug report was 
filed about a month ago.

I haven't compiled 18.3 yet, but I did not see this on the list of bug 
fixes. BTW - no more system instability issues. If you have any further 
input on the issue it would be welcome.

Goodnight,

William

On 01/28/2014 07:54 PM, Dave wrote:
>   Not sure what you mean by power options.  I thought you were talking about
> suspend to disk.  That's there.  I believe it works, though I don't use it
> myself.  You do see that option in the System menu, don't you?  If it doesn't
> work, then it's probably because your enlightenment_sys isn't set SUID.
> Check your lib/enlightenment/utils/enlightenment_sys binary.
>
>   The latest stable E was 18.2.  Up to last night, that is.  I'm sure you've
> seen the 18.3 announcement now.
>
>   Cheers,
>   dave.k
>
>   
>   
>
>   In the year 2014, of the month of January, on the 28th day, William wrote:
>> I had been experiencing the f1 error. Also complete freezes where I had
>> to press alt + f1 to get into a console and kill everything. Most often,
>> applications would crash in tiled mode if I tried to move them around.
>>
>> After I sent my message to the list, I re-installed Enlightenment using
>> synaptic and checked a few things that were not initially installed, but
>> sounded important. Fortunately my configuration was saved. I know
>> something is different. Prior to the re-install, every time I right
>> clicked an image and select Shotwell my system would completely freeze
>> and I would have to go into a console, sometimes hit the power button.
>> That problem is gone after the re-install so I am hopeful.
>>
>> The lack of power options is still nagging though.
>>
>> You mentioned 18.2. Is that the latest because it's what I am running.
>>
>> For the record it's an NVIDIA GT 610 with the latest 331.2 drivers and
>> kernel 3.12.6
>>
>> If problems return, I will better document them.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> William
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 01/28/2014 07:27 AM, Dave wrote:
>>>    Hi William.  I find E18 to be more stable than E17, so I'd recommend you
>>> stick with that.
>>>
>>>    As for crashes, are you talking about WM crashes, where you're prompted 
>>> to
>>> hit F1 to restart?  Or are you talking about Linux kernel crashes?  In which
>>> case, it could be the video driver responsible.
>>>
>>>    When diagnosing a crash, it's usually helpful to get a list of your OS,
>>> video hardware, video driver, hmmm, maybe kernel version as well.  Any
>>> relevent error messages would be nice too.  Check out your .xsession-errors
>>> file for those.
>>>
>>>    If you can replicate the crash consistently, then give us the steps to do
>>> so, and we'll see if we can do it as well.
>>>
>>>    Honestly, I'm a bit surprised that E18 is crashing.  I've been using it 
>>> for
>>> ... checking the datestamp on the executable ... a month?  No, wait, that's
>>> E18.2.  I used a few alpha releases months before that, and never had a
>>> crash.  Then again, I've never used the suspend feature, so if that's what's
>>> triggering the instability, it's out of my field of experience.
>>>
>>>    Updates?  Well, haven't played with this myself, but looking at the 
>>> source
>>> code, seems like it's a base of 1 hour, multiplied by some "later" config
>>> number.  No idea about this, as I haven't enabled the check, and I can't 
>>> find
>>> any place to configure it in the settings.
>>>
>>>    I know what you mean about Enlightenment.  I've tweaked it to suit my 
>>> style
>>> and taste.  It works so well, I can't imagine using anything else.  To me,
>>> other windowing systems feel clunky and inconvenient.
>>>
>>>    Cheers,
>>>    dave.k
>>>
>>>
>>>    In the year 2014, of the month of January, on the 28th day, William 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> I have been following the Enlightenment project since day one. However,
>>>> I have not actually used it in over a decade - until now. Perhaps I was
>>>> feeling nostalgic, but for whatever reason I recently decided to take
>>>> E18 for a spin. I turns out that I absolutely love it, and it has pretty
>>>> much taken over as my DE. Unfortunately I didn't research what I was
>>>> getting into, and honestly at the time was expecting to take a look and
>>>> then toss it for my usual system. So it turns E18 is a bit on the buggy
>>>> side with the occasional application and complete system crashes along
>>>> misc. odd behavior and most of the power options not available. At one
>>>> point I tried to downgrade to E17 (Ubuntu 12.04 based system), but that
>>>> did not go well. I have everything set up the way I want and will
>>>> subscribe to your other lists to keep track of development. I have
>>>> developed something of a "golden path" work flow that greatly minimizes
>>>> crashes, but I wondering if there is any way at all to get the power
>>>> options working. It would be nice to suspend my computer without closing
>>>> everything and backing out to lightdm.
>>>>
>>>> Also, when I installed E18, I allowed it to check for updates. What is
>>>> the frequency of checks, and is there a system update function I should
>>>> be manually running from time to time?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> William
>>>>
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