On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Jos� Fonseca wrote:
>
> A system such as bugzilla can address everyone's needs (including Keith's
> and Jens').
The way to address the needs of Keith and Jens is probably to let them
ignore the bug tracking, and have others (maybe the originator, maybe just
somebody else) track the things.
People are different. Some people like coding and are good at it. Some
people like having a system keep track of things for them. The two sets
overlap somewhat, but most certainly aren't identical.
I for example refuse to use anything that requires me to use a web browser
and click around to update bugs. I feel that it's a complete waste of
time. And sure, that has frustrated more than one kernel developer who
wanted to know when something was fixed, or when some patch was applied,
but the fact is, I've tried, and I just don't have the interest. And if I
don't have the interest, it just won't get done.
Which is why I understand Keith's reluctance very well.
You shouldn't try to make developers work in some specific way - it's
counterprodutive. Some people get tons of work done in the absolutely
strangest ways possible. I know a kernel developer who use RCS (names
withheld to protect the guilty), for Gods sake! In any sane society such a
person would be instantly committed to the nearest insane asylum, but the
fact is, he's _productive_.
Some kernel developers don't even use a graphical desktop. Seriously. It
wasn't more than a few days ago that Ingo Molnar complained that the
kernel sources do not always fit on 80-character lines, and he still
mostly uses 80x25 text mode.
TEXT MODE! He's obviously crazy as a loon. But that's ok. He gets the work
done.
On a separate topic - have you guys thought about replacing the user
mailing list with a real newsgroup? Yes, newsgroups are noisy as hell, but
they are also fairly easy to browse through (especially with a scoring
newsreader, or with the "D" key under trn). And the noisiness can be
useful.
Linus
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