Off topic, I know, but just wanted to say that I'm really excited this effort is taking place and I'm excited to use the app when you get it running. Keep up the good work!
On Mon, 2025-05-05 at 16:44 -0500, Ethan C wrote: > > With Greg's changes (PR#1) the resources seem to be copied correctly, > but the app still crashes due to a failure to open a xib. > > 2025-05-05 16:38:28.958 gdnc[863487:863487] File NSData.m: 291. In > BOOL readContentsOfFile(NSString *, void **, off_t *, NSZone *) Open > (/home/ethan/GNUstep/Library//gnustep- > base/Versions/1.30/Resources/Languages/English) attempt failed - not > a regular file > 2025-05-05 16:38:29.034 OpenOutliner[863386:863386] Data passed to > Xib loading method is nil. > 2025-05-05 16:38:29.034 OpenOutliner[863386:863386] Failed to load > Xib > /home/ethan/Projects/GNUstep/Porting/OpenOutliner/OpenOutliner.app/Op > enOutliner: Uncaught exception NSInternalInconsistencyException, > reason: Couldn't load controller scene identifier = (null) > Aborted (core dumped) > > > Do we need to copy an lproj? In general, how does GNUstep handle > localization? > > > On 4/26/25 23:04, Ethan C wrote: > > > > > > After manually copying the resources into it, it still has the same > > behavior. I'm not sure what's happening. > > > > > > On 4/26/25 22:58, Ethan C wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I believe the issue is because the resources were relative > > > symlinks and the symlinks were copied, rather than the file > > > contents themselves. Is there a way in GNUmakefile to include > > > resources from different directories? > > > > > > > > > On 4/26/25 22:55, Gregory Casamento wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For whatever reason it isn't copying the resources properly. I > > > > believe it is an issue with the GNUmakefile, because NONE of > > > > the xib/storyboard resources were properly copied. I'm going > > > > to address this on a branch and submit a PR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 3:19 PM Ethan C > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After adding all the resources and setting the main > > > > > storyboard to Main.storyboard, it gives me an error saying > > > > > that -[NSXMLDocument initWithData:options:error] is being > > > > > called with data = nil. I have just committed this change, > > > > > and I can't debug further. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/25/25 13:13, Gregory Casamento wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you commit your changes (I presume you have) I'll take a > > > > > > look. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 2:04 PM Ethan C > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After disabling the pasteboard, the app now builds and > > > > > > > links. However, only the miniwindow shows up, and it > > > > > > > complains about not being able to find its resources. I > > > > > > > don't know the GNUstep resource system well so some help > > > > > > > would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2025, 10:10 Ethan C > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Patrick, Greg! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have written a GNUmakefile. The main obstacle is the > > > > > > > > pasteboard functionality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GNUstep implements the OpenStep/pre-10.5 OSX pasteboard > > > > > > > > (see the GNUstep docs and the Apple docs); I have no > > > > > > > > idea how it integrates with the system's clipboards. > > > > > > > > This pasteboard contains a single item, which may have > > > > > > > > multiple representations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Modern macOS implements the post-10.6 OSX pasteboard > > > > > > > > (see the Apple docs - "Pasteboard Concepts" is the most > > > > > > > > important part), and OpenOutliner expects this to work. > > > > > > > > This pasteboard is a list of items (for example, if you > > > > > > > > copy a selection of a webpage which contains an image > > > > > > > > it should put a rich text and an image onto the > > > > > > > > pasteboard), each of which may have multiple > > > > > > > > representations. Additionally, it starts using Uniform > > > > > > > > Type Identifiers (UTIs) in order to refer to types > > > > > > > > rather than use the old pasteboard type strings (at > > > > > > > > least in 10.6 those old strings were still supported > > > > > > > > but were deprecated). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It looks kind of complicated to implement the new > > > > > > > > pasteboard API, so maybe we could try porting > > > > > > > > OpenOutliner to the old pasteboard API or temporarily > > > > > > > > disabling all the features which need the pasteboard. > > > > > > > > Do any of you have opinions on this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Uniform Type Identifiers framework, part of > > > > > > > > LaunchServices, seems to be implemented by Boron so we > > > > > > > > could probably do that. (However, that would make > > > > > > > > gnustep-gui depend on Boron, which may or may not be > > > > > > > > wanted.) We might want to implement in Boron the new > > > > > > > > Uniform Type Identifiers framework introduced in macOS > > > > > > > > 11 Big Sur, which is object-oriented (UTIs are of type > > > > > > > > `UTType*` rather than `NSString*`, and it provides an > > > > > > > > Objective-C API). Although OpenOutliner doesn't use the > > > > > > > > new UTI APIs, it would be useful to implement in case > > > > > > > > newer apps need it, and regardless it seems to be a > > > > > > > > cleaner API. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ethan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/25/25 08:01, Gregory Casamento wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ethan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mine is gcasa. I would like to help a little if I > > > > > > > > > can. Also, expanding libs-xcode, if it needs it, to > > > > > > > > > handle it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours, GC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 4:11 AM Patrick Cardona > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2025-04-24 18:50:21 +0200 Ethan C > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ethan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I started on the porting at > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/ethanc8/OpenOutliner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Great! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can > > > > > > > > > > > grep for "FIXME-GNUstep" for the things that > > > > > > > > > > don't work yet (the whole thing > > > > > > > > > > > doesn't compile yet). If you give me your GitHub > > > > > > > > > > username I can give you > > > > > > > > > > > commit access to my fork. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mine is: pcardona34 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/24/25 08:14, Patrick Cardona wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> Hello Ethan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Thanks for this mention. I shall look at this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On 2025-04-24 04:57:47 +0200 Ethan C > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> David Chisnall recently mentioned on Lobsters > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > <https://lobste.rs/s/btjtkr/what_software_do_you_dr > > > > > > > > > > eam_about_do_not#c_i2m53u> > > > > > > > > > > >>> a clone of OmniOutliner 3 he wrote in 2017, > > > > > > > > > > and said it would be easily > > > > > > > > > > >>> portable. Its source is on GitHub > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > <https://github.com/davidchisnall/OpenOutliner> if > > > > > > > > > > you want to look at it. > > > > > > > > > > >>> From the README it looks like a decently > > > > > > > > > > complex application with lots > > > > > > > > > > >>> of functionality, so it could be quite useful > > > > > > > > > > to port it. See also Liam > > > > > > > > > > >>> Proven's comment about why he uses outliners > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > <https://lobste.rs/s/btjtkr/what_software_do_you_dr > > > > > > > > > > eam_about_do_not#c_owdlc8> > > > > > > > > > > >>> to get an idea of what outliner users would > > > > > > > > > > want. I might take up this at > > > > > > > > > > >>> some point, but I doubt it as I am quite busy > > > > > > > > > > and have too many side > > > > > > > > > > >>> projects already :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Ethan Charoenpitaks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Patrick Cardona - France > > > > > > > > > > MUA: GNUMail - Hardware: Raspberry Pi pi400 Model > > > > > > > > > > OS: Debian 12 (RPI-OS Lite) - Desktop: GSDE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gregory Casamento > > > > > > > > > GNUstep Lead Developer / Black Lotus, Principal > > > > > > > > > Consultant > > > > > > > > > http://www.gnustep.org - > > > > > > > > > http://heronsperch.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become a > > > > > > > > > Patron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.openhub.net/languages/objective_c > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.gofundme.com/f/cacao-linux-a-gnustep- > > > > > > > > > reference-implementation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gregory Casamento > > > > > > GNUstep Lead Developer / Black Lotus, Principal Consultant > > > > > > http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com > > > > > > https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become a > > > > > > Patron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.openhub.net/languages/objective_c > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.gofundme.com/f/cacao-linux-a-gnustep-reference- > > > > > > implementation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gregory Casamento > > > > GNUstep Lead Developer / Black Lotus, Principal Consultant > > > > http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com > > > > https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become a Patron > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.openhub.net/languages/objective_c > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.gofundme.com/f/cacao-linux-a-gnustep-reference- > > > > implementation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
