If you commit your changes (I presume you have) I'll take a look.
On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 2:04 PM Ethan C
<[email protected]> wrote:
After disabling the pasteboard, the app now builds and links.
However, only the miniwindow shows up, and it complains about
not being able to find its resources. I don't know the
GNUstep resource system well so some help would be appreciated.
On Fri, Apr 25, 2025, 10:10 Ethan C
<[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks Patrick, Greg!
Hi everyone,
I have written a GNUmakefile. The main obstacle is the
pasteboard functionality.
GNUstep implements the OpenStep/pre-10.5 OSX pasteboard
(see the GNUstep docs
<https://www.gnustep.org/resources/documentation/Developer/Gui/Reference/NSPasteboard.html>
and the Apple docs
<https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/CopyandPaste/CopyandPaste.html>);
I have no idea how it integrates with the system's
clipboards. This pasteboard contains a single item, which
may have multiple representations.
Modern macOS implements the post-10.6 OSX pasteboard (see
the Apple docs
<https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/PasteboardGuide106/Introduction/Introduction.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40008099>
- "Pasteboard Concepts" is the most important part), and
OpenOutliner expects this to work. This pasteboard is a
list of items (for example, if you copy a selection of a
webpage which contains an image it should put a rich text
and an image onto the pasteboard), each of which may have
multiple representations. Additionally, it starts using
Uniform Type Identifiers (UTIs) in order to refer to
types rather than use the old pasteboard type strings (at
least in 10.6 those old strings were still supported but
were deprecated).
It looks kind of complicated to implement the new
pasteboard API, so maybe we could try porting
OpenOutliner to the old pasteboard API or temporarily
disabling all the features which need the pasteboard. Do
any of you have opinions on this?
The Uniform Type Identifiers framework, part of
LaunchServices, seems to be implemented by Boron so we
could probably do that. (However, that would make
gnustep-gui depend on Boron, which may or may not be
wanted.) We might want to implement in Boron the new
Uniform Type Identifiers framework
<https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uniformtypeidentifiers?language=objc>
introduced in macOS 11 Big Sur, which is object-oriented
(UTIs are of type `UTType*` rather than `NSString*`, and
it provides an Objective-C API). Although OpenOutliner
doesn't use the new UTI APIs, it would be useful to
implement in case newer apps need it, and regardless it
seems to be a cleaner API.
Thanks,
Ethan
On 4/25/25 08:01, Gregory Casamento wrote:
Ethan,
Mine is gcasa. I would like to help a little if I can.
Also, expanding libs-xcode, if it needs it, to handle it.
Yours, GC
On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 4:11 AM Patrick Cardona
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-04-24 18:50:21 +0200 Ethan C
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hello Ethan,
> I started on the porting at
https://github.com/ethanc8/OpenOutliner.
Great!
> You can
> grep for "FIXME-GNUstep" for the things that don't
work yet (the whole thing
> doesn't compile yet). If you give me your GitHub
username I can give you
> commit access to my fork.
Mine is: pcardona34
>
> On 4/24/25 08:14, Patrick Cardona wrote:
>> Hello Ethan,
>
>> Thanks for this mention. I shall look at this.
>
>> On 2025-04-24 04:57:47 +0200 Ethan C
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> Hi everyone,
>
>>> David Chisnall recently mentioned on Lobsters
>>>
<https://lobste.rs/s/btjtkr/what_software_do_you_dream_about_do_not#c_i2m53u>
>>> a clone of OmniOutliner 3 he wrote in 2017, and
said it would be easily
>>> portable. Its source is on GitHub
>>> <https://github.com/davidchisnall/OpenOutliner>
if you want to look at it.
>>> From the README it looks like a decently
complex application with lots
>>> of functionality, so it could be quite useful to
port it. See also Liam
>>> Proven's comment about why he uses outliners
>>>
<https://lobste.rs/s/btjtkr/what_software_do_you_dream_about_do_not#c_owdlc8>
>>> to get an idea of what outliner users would
want. I might take up this at
>>> some point, but I doubt it as I am quite busy
and have too many side
>>> projects already :)
>
>>> Thanks,
>
>>> Ethan Charoenpitaks
>
>
>
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