For whatever reason it isn't copying the resources properly.  I believe it
is an issue with the GNUmakefile, because NONE of the xib/storyboard
resources were properly copied.   I'm going to address this on a branch and
submit a PR.

GC

On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 3:19 PM Ethan C <[email protected]> wrote:

> After adding all the resources and setting the main storyboard to
> Main.storyboard, it gives me an error saying that -[NSXMLDocument
> initWithData:options:error] is being called with data = nil. I have just
> committed this change, and I can't debug further.
> On 4/25/25 13:13, Gregory Casamento wrote:
>
> If you commit your changes (I presume you have) I'll take a look.
>
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 2:04 PM Ethan C <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> After disabling the pasteboard, the app now builds and links. However,
>> only the miniwindow shows up, and it complains about not being able to find
>> its resources. I don't know the GNUstep resource system well so some help
>> would be appreciated.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 25, 2025, 10:10 Ethan C <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Patrick, Greg!
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I have written a GNUmakefile. The main obstacle is the pasteboard
>>> functionality.
>>>
>>> GNUstep implements the OpenStep/pre-10.5 OSX pasteboard (see the
>>> GNUstep docs
>>> <https://www.gnustep.org/resources/documentation/Developer/Gui/Reference/NSPasteboard.html>
>>> and the Apple docs
>>> <https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/CopyandPaste/CopyandPaste.html>);
>>> I have no idea how it integrates with the system's clipboards. This
>>> pasteboard contains a single item, which may have multiple representations.
>>>
>>> Modern macOS implements the post-10.6 OSX pasteboard (see the Apple docs
>>> <https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/PasteboardGuide106/Introduction/Introduction.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40008099>
>>> - "Pasteboard Concepts" is the most important part), and OpenOutliner
>>> expects this to work. This pasteboard is a list of items (for example, if
>>> you copy a selection of a webpage which contains an image it should put a
>>> rich text and an image onto the pasteboard), each of which may have
>>> multiple representations. Additionally, it starts using Uniform Type
>>> Identifiers (UTIs) in order to refer to types rather than use the old
>>> pasteboard type strings (at least in 10.6 those old strings were still
>>> supported but were deprecated).
>>>
>>> It looks kind of complicated to implement the new pasteboard API, so
>>> maybe we could try porting OpenOutliner to the old pasteboard API or
>>> temporarily disabling all the features which need the pasteboard. Do any of
>>> you have opinions on this?
>>>
>>> The Uniform Type Identifiers framework, part of LaunchServices, seems to
>>> be implemented by Boron so we could probably do that. (However, that would
>>> make gnustep-gui depend on Boron, which may or may not be wanted.) We might
>>> want to implement in Boron the new Uniform Type Identifiers framework
>>> <https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uniformtypeidentifiers?language=objc>
>>> introduced in macOS 11 Big Sur, which is object-oriented (UTIs are of type
>>> `UTType*` rather than `NSString*`, and it provides an Objective-C API).
>>> Although OpenOutliner doesn't use the new UTI APIs, it would be useful to
>>> implement in case newer apps need it, and regardless it seems to be a
>>> cleaner API.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ethan
>>> On 4/25/25 08:01, Gregory Casamento wrote:
>>>
>>> Ethan,
>>>
>>> Mine is gcasa.  I would like to help a little if I can.  Also, expanding
>>> libs-xcode, if it needs it, to handle it.
>>>
>>> Yours, GC
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 4:11 AM Patrick Cardona <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2025-04-24 18:50:21 +0200 Ethan C <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Ethan,
>>>>
>>>> > I started on the porting at https://github.com/ethanc8/OpenOutliner.
>>>>
>>>> Great!
>>>>
>>>> > You can
>>>> > grep for "FIXME-GNUstep" for the things that don't work yet (the
>>>> whole thing
>>>> > doesn't compile yet). If you give me your GitHub username I can give
>>>> you
>>>> > commit access to my fork.
>>>>
>>>> Mine is: pcardona34
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > On 4/24/25 08:14, Patrick Cardona wrote:
>>>> >> Hello Ethan,
>>>> >
>>>> >> Thanks for this mention. I shall look at this.
>>>> >
>>>> >> On 2025-04-24 04:57:47 +0200 Ethan C <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>> Hi everyone,
>>>> >
>>>> >>> David Chisnall recently mentioned on Lobsters
>>>> >>> <
>>>> https://lobste.rs/s/btjtkr/what_software_do_you_dream_about_do_not#c_i2m53u>
>>>>
>>>> >>> a clone of OmniOutliner 3 he wrote in 2017, and said it would be
>>>> easily
>>>> >>> portable. Its source is on GitHub
>>>> >>> <https://github.com/davidchisnall/OpenOutliner> if you want to
>>>> look at it.
>>>> >>>  From the README it looks like a decently complex application with
>>>> lots
>>>> >>> of functionality, so it could be quite useful to port it. See also
>>>> Liam
>>>> >>> Proven's comment about why he uses outliners
>>>> >>> <
>>>> https://lobste.rs/s/btjtkr/what_software_do_you_dream_about_do_not#c_owdlc8>
>>>>
>>>> >>> to get an idea of what outliner users would want. I might take up
>>>> this at
>>>> >>> some point, but I doubt it as I am quite busy and have too many
>>>> side
>>>> >>> projects already :)
>>>> >
>>>> >>> Thanks,
>>>> >
>>>> >>> Ethan Charoenpitaks
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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