On 11/8/18 1:16 AM, Emmanuel Bourg wrote:
Le 07/11/2018 à 23:36, Mark Thomas a écrit :

WDYT?
What about simplifying the issue by dropping the translations of the
internal messages and retaining only the user facing messages (things
like HTTP error messages that can appear in a normal request) ?

+1 to this. Not sure if I'm the target audience, but I personally get quite annoyed at translated error messages into my native language (which is not English). When I get a non-English error message, I have to:

 * Think about what it means (because this is so non-standard in things
   like web-browsers)
 * Translate it into English to the best of my abilities
 * Search google using my sub-optimal translation, hoping I hit the
   nail on the head, and land in the correct SFO/forum answer

Granted, this is a bit easier with Tomcat - I can grep the source for the non-English message, get the key, and grep the key for the full English original. Still, that's pretty annoying to me.

Maybe this is different for widely-spoken languages, like Chinese, or Spanish, where people might have their own language variant of Stack Overflow, and similar forums...


I think it's worth considering because:
- The target audience of Tomcat is mainly developers and administrators
which are used to read English text.
- The coverage of the translations is rather low.
- Maintaining the translations, the quality and the consistency is
difficult and time consuming.
- Sometimes the translation of the technical terms are a bit unusual and
not as clear as the English counterpart. For example in French it isn't
obvious that "gestionnaire de protocole" relates to ProtocolHandler
which is an internal Tomcat concept. Other translations are even funny
like "enrobeur de conteneur" for "wrapper container" (a pastry concept
applied to a freight container?). This issue is so common with the
French translation that many messages carry the English terms in
parentheses to clarify the meaning.

Emmanuel Bourg

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