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On 16 Jul 2013, at 20:24, "Arnaud Héritier" <[email protected]> wrote: > Can you tell me if now you can see the result : > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Jqxq2KgSricwS7YV7pmWvHA8m7_TE7c8JhusugPmGW4/viewanalytics > > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Kristian Rosenvold < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I tucked away the last public debs of 1.5 and can release 1.5 >> indefinitely. In the release of the last security patch, it seems like >> Oracle have released approx 10 nonpublic jdk 5 versions. Shame we can't >> have it. >> >> Kristian >> Den 16. juli 2013 14:14 skrev "Lennart Jörelid" <[email protected] >> følgende: >> >>> I rum mainly on OSX for client and some Linuxes for server - so client >>> side is >= JDK 1.6 >>> >>> // vänlig hälsning, >>> // [sw: "best regards"], >>> // >>> // Lennart Jörelid >>> >>> 16 jul 2013 kl. 13:53 skrev Olivier Lamy <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> perso osx. So only >= 1.6 >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/7/16 Stephen Connolly <[email protected]>: >>>>> Speaking as a Maven Developer... >>>>> >>>>> My primary development machine is OS-X. >>>>> >>>>> On that machine I have 1.6.0_24-b07-334, 1.7.0_17, 1.7.0_21, and >>> 1.7.0_25 >>>>> >>>>> I have a personal linode running 1.6.0_22, and my famous Acer Aspire >> One >>>>> that has some Java 1.5 and 1.6 versions on it... but I have not turned >>> it >>>>> on more than twice since March 2011... most likely I will wipe it and >>>>> reinstall some more recent linux on it which will remove the older JDK >>>>> versions leaving it with likely a 1.6 and a 1.7. >>>>> >>>>> I also have a windows box sitting beside me... powered off (the Sun >>> Ultra >>>>> T-20's are noisy don't you know) I only turn it on when I *need* >> windows >>>>> and a virtual machine will not suffice (i.e. firmware updates on >> Samsung >>>>> Galaxy S... which is now only used as a game console by my son) That >> has >>>>> Java 1.4-1.7 on it but it is far from current in terms of AV and >>> patches, >>>>> so not something I would turn on for a quick test of a release. >>>>> >>>>> Effectively the lowest I can test releases is Java 1.6. >>>>> >>>>> It would be interesting to hear what the rest of the committers have >> as >>>>> their testing capability. If very few committers have access to Java >> 1.5 >>>>> across operating systems then I think the answer is clear... namely we >>>>> would not be in a position to stand over a release that claims to work >>> on >>>>> Java 1.5, and hence moving to Java 1.6 as a baseline would seem a good >>> idea. >>>>> >>>>> Tools like animal-sniffer are great to help developers who cannot set >> up >>>>> the older JVMs on their development environment... but in my >> experience >>>>> they are no substitute for running on the older JVM. >>>>> >>>>> If our test capability is basically the Windows/Java 1.5 slave and the >>>>> *nix/Java 1.5 slave on the Apache Jenkins build server *and* we cannot >>> keep >>>>> that integration test suite passing *then* Java 1.5 is dead for Maven >>> IMHO >>>>> >>>>> -Stephen >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 16 July 2013 11:58, Robert Patrick <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Oracle Java 5 and 6 are EOLed but Oracle continues to support >> customers >>>>>> using commercial products that require them that themselves are not >>> EOLed. >>>>>> Given that current versions of Maven support Java 5 and 6, the real >>>>>> question is how important is it for older applications that cannot >>> support >>>>>> Java 7 to be able to use future versions of Maven? >>>>>> >>>>>> As far as I know, there is nothing from preventing Maven developers >>> from >>>>>> using the existing versions of JDK 5/6 to build and test Maven. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Robert Patrick <[email protected]> >>>>>> VP, FMW Architects Team: The A-Team >>>>>> Oracle Corporation Office: +1.940.725.0011 >>>>>> 1148 Triple Crown Court Fax: +1.940.725.0012 >>>>>> Bartonville, TX 76226, USA Mobile: +1.469.556.9450 >>>>>> >>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server >>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston >>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done >>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/ >>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Stephen Connolly [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:47 AM >>>>>> To: Maven Developers List >>>>>> Subject: Re: Java version usage survey >>>>>> >>>>>> I've put a question on Stack Overflow: >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17671899/when-is-java-6-end-of-life-in-the-context-of-writing-developer-toolsto >>>>>> see if we can get something that is a bit more focus on facts. >>>>>> >>>>>> e.g. we are all OSS developers: thus premium/extended/sustaining >>> support >>>>>> contracts are outside our budget. If we cannot test it for free, we >>> cannot >>>>>> support it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 16 July 2013 09:01, Fred Cooke <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> My 2c: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - J7 on Mac is unstable (trust me...) and non-performant, and >> thus I >>>>>>> require my users to use Apple's J6 on the Mac. >>>>>>> - On Linux there are lots of Swing bugs in all versions, but a lot >>>>>> less >>>>>>> in J7 than J6, so I recommend J7 for Linux guys. >>>>>>> - I don't use J5 for anything at all and none of my code can run >> on >>> it >>>>>>> due to basics that are missing there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I didn't distinguish vendors because the comments apply across all >> of >>>>>>> them anyway. >>>>>>> Fred. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Chris Graham <[email protected] >>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Arnaud. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You need to at least add an OTHER (ie non oracle) entry as well. >> You >>>>>>>> you can track Oracle java 6 and Non-Oracle java 6. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Chris >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Arnaud Héritier >>>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Good point. I updated the survey to tell it is the Oracle JDK EOL >>>>>>>>> Survey : >>> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Jqxq2KgSricwS7YV7pmWvHA8m7_TE7c8Jhusu >>>>>>> gPmGW4/viewform >>>>>>>>> Replies : >>> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Jqxq2KgSricwS7YV7pmWvHA8m7_TE7c8Jhusu >>>>>>> gPmGW4/viewanalytics >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Chris Graham >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Arnaud Héritier < >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Java 6 EOL was in feb and Maven and its plugins are always >>>>>>>> compatible >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Oracle Java 6 was EOL'd. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> IBM Java 6 was, and is not due to be for a few more years. They >>>>>>>>>> even >>>>>>>>>> *extended* 1.5's life for a year. Sept this year, I think. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -Chris >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier >>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net >>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype : aheritier >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Olivier Lamy >>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au >>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > -- > ----- > Arnaud Héritier > http://aheritier.net > Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com > Twitter/Skype : aheritier --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
