perso osx. So only >= 1.6
2013/7/16 Stephen Connolly <[email protected]>: > Speaking as a Maven Developer... > > My primary development machine is OS-X. > > On that machine I have 1.6.0_24-b07-334, 1.7.0_17, 1.7.0_21, and 1.7.0_25 > > I have a personal linode running 1.6.0_22, and my famous Acer Aspire One > that has some Java 1.5 and 1.6 versions on it... but I have not turned it > on more than twice since March 2011... most likely I will wipe it and > reinstall some more recent linux on it which will remove the older JDK > versions leaving it with likely a 1.6 and a 1.7. > > I also have a windows box sitting beside me... powered off (the Sun Ultra > T-20's are noisy don't you know) I only turn it on when I *need* windows > and a virtual machine will not suffice (i.e. firmware updates on Samsung > Galaxy S... which is now only used as a game console by my son) That has > Java 1.4-1.7 on it but it is far from current in terms of AV and patches, > so not something I would turn on for a quick test of a release. > > Effectively the lowest I can test releases is Java 1.6. > > It would be interesting to hear what the rest of the committers have as > their testing capability. If very few committers have access to Java 1.5 > across operating systems then I think the answer is clear... namely we > would not be in a position to stand over a release that claims to work on > Java 1.5, and hence moving to Java 1.6 as a baseline would seem a good idea. > > Tools like animal-sniffer are great to help developers who cannot set up > the older JVMs on their development environment... but in my experience > they are no substitute for running on the older JVM. > > If our test capability is basically the Windows/Java 1.5 slave and the > *nix/Java 1.5 slave on the Apache Jenkins build server *and* we cannot keep > that integration test suite passing *then* Java 1.5 is dead for Maven IMHO > > -Stephen > > > On 16 July 2013 11:58, Robert Patrick <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Oracle Java 5 and 6 are EOLed but Oracle continues to support customers >> using commercial products that require them that themselves are not EOLed. >> Given that current versions of Maven support Java 5 and 6, the real >> question is how important is it for older applications that cannot support >> Java 7 to be able to use future versions of Maven? >> >> As far as I know, there is nothing from preventing Maven developers from >> using the existing versions of JDK 5/6 to build and test Maven. >> >> -- >> Robert Patrick <[email protected]> >> VP, FMW Architects Team: The A-Team >> Oracle Corporation Office: +1.940.725.0011 >> 1148 Triple Crown Court Fax: +1.940.725.0012 >> Bartonville, TX 76226, USA Mobile: +1.469.556.9450 >> >> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server >> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston >> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done >> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/ >> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/ >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stephen Connolly [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:47 AM >> To: Maven Developers List >> Subject: Re: Java version usage survey >> >> I've put a question on Stack Overflow: >> >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17671899/when-is-java-6-end-of-life-in-the-context-of-writing-developer-toolsto >> see if we can get something that is a bit more focus on facts. >> >> e.g. we are all OSS developers: thus premium/extended/sustaining support >> contracts are outside our budget. If we cannot test it for free, we cannot >> support it. >> >> >> On 16 July 2013 09:01, Fred Cooke <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > My 2c: >> > >> > - J7 on Mac is unstable (trust me...) and non-performant, and thus I >> > require my users to use Apple's J6 on the Mac. >> > - On Linux there are lots of Swing bugs in all versions, but a lot >> less >> > in J7 than J6, so I recommend J7 for Linux guys. >> > - I don't use J5 for anything at all and none of my code can run on it >> > due to basics that are missing there. >> > >> > I didn't distinguish vendors because the comments apply across all of >> > them anyway. >> > Fred. >> > >> > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Chris Graham <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Hi Arnaud. >> > > >> > > You need to at least add an OTHER (ie non oracle) entry as well. You >> > > you can track Oracle java 6 and Non-Oracle java 6. >> > > >> > > -Chris >> > > >> > > >> > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Arnaud Héritier >> > > <[email protected] >> > > >wrote: >> > > >> > > > Good point. I updated the survey to tell it is the Oracle JDK EOL >> > > > Survey : >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Jqxq2KgSricwS7YV7pmWvHA8m7_TE7c8Jhusu >> > gPmGW4/viewform >> > > > Replies : >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Jqxq2KgSricwS7YV7pmWvHA8m7_TE7c8Jhusu >> > gPmGW4/viewanalytics >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Chris Graham >> > > > <[email protected]> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Arnaud Héritier < >> > [email protected] >> > > > > >wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > Hi, >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Java 6 EOL was in feb and Maven and its plugins are always >> > > compatible >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Oracle Java 6 was EOL'd. >> > > > > >> > > > > IBM Java 6 was, and is not due to be for a few more years. They >> > > > > even >> > > > > *extended* 1.5's life for a year. Sept this year, I think. >> > > > > >> > > > > -Chris >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > ----- >> > > > Arnaud Héritier >> > > > http://aheritier.net >> > > > Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype : aheritier >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >> >> -- Olivier Lamy Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
