Can you tell me if now you can see the result : https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Jqxq2KgSricwS7YV7pmWvHA8m7_TE7c8JhusugPmGW4/viewanalytics
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Kristian Rosenvold < [email protected]> wrote: > I tucked away the last public debs of 1.5 and can release 1.5 > indefinitely. In the release of the last security patch, it seems like > Oracle have released approx 10 nonpublic jdk 5 versions. Shame we can't > have it. > > Kristian > Den 16. juli 2013 14:14 skrev "Lennart Jörelid" <[email protected] > > > følgende: > > > I rum mainly on OSX for client and some Linuxes for server - so client > > side is >= JDK 1.6 > > > > // vänlig hälsning, > > // [sw: "best regards"], > > // > > // Lennart Jörelid > > > > 16 jul 2013 kl. 13:53 skrev Olivier Lamy <[email protected]>: > > > > > perso osx. So only >= 1.6 > > > > > > > > > 2013/7/16 Stephen Connolly <[email protected]>: > > >> Speaking as a Maven Developer... > > >> > > >> My primary development machine is OS-X. > > >> > > >> On that machine I have 1.6.0_24-b07-334, 1.7.0_17, 1.7.0_21, and > > 1.7.0_25 > > >> > > >> I have a personal linode running 1.6.0_22, and my famous Acer Aspire > One > > >> that has some Java 1.5 and 1.6 versions on it... but I have not turned > > it > > >> on more than twice since March 2011... most likely I will wipe it and > > >> reinstall some more recent linux on it which will remove the older JDK > > >> versions leaving it with likely a 1.6 and a 1.7. > > >> > > >> I also have a windows box sitting beside me... powered off (the Sun > > Ultra > > >> T-20's are noisy don't you know) I only turn it on when I *need* > windows > > >> and a virtual machine will not suffice (i.e. firmware updates on > Samsung > > >> Galaxy S... which is now only used as a game console by my son) That > has > > >> Java 1.4-1.7 on it but it is far from current in terms of AV and > > patches, > > >> so not something I would turn on for a quick test of a release. > > >> > > >> Effectively the lowest I can test releases is Java 1.6. > > >> > > >> It would be interesting to hear what the rest of the committers have > as > > >> their testing capability. If very few committers have access to Java > 1.5 > > >> across operating systems then I think the answer is clear... namely we > > >> would not be in a position to stand over a release that claims to work > > on > > >> Java 1.5, and hence moving to Java 1.6 as a baseline would seem a good > > idea. > > >> > > >> Tools like animal-sniffer are great to help developers who cannot set > up > > >> the older JVMs on their development environment... but in my > experience > > >> they are no substitute for running on the older JVM. > > >> > > >> If our test capability is basically the Windows/Java 1.5 slave and the > > >> *nix/Java 1.5 slave on the Apache Jenkins build server *and* we cannot > > keep > > >> that integration test suite passing *then* Java 1.5 is dead for Maven > > IMHO > > >> > > >> -Stephen > > >> > > >> > > >> On 16 July 2013 11:58, Robert Patrick <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > >> > > >>> Oracle Java 5 and 6 are EOLed but Oracle continues to support > customers > > >>> using commercial products that require them that themselves are not > > EOLed. > > >>> Given that current versions of Maven support Java 5 and 6, the real > > >>> question is how important is it for older applications that cannot > > support > > >>> Java 7 to be able to use future versions of Maven? > > >>> > > >>> As far as I know, there is nothing from preventing Maven developers > > from > > >>> using the existing versions of JDK 5/6 to build and test Maven. > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> Robert Patrick <[email protected]> > > >>> VP, FMW Architects Team: The A-Team > > >>> Oracle Corporation Office: +1.940.725.0011 > > >>> 1148 Triple Crown Court Fax: +1.940.725.0012 > > >>> Bartonville, TX 76226, USA Mobile: +1.469.556.9450 > > >>> > > >>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server > > >>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston > > >>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done > > >>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/ > > >>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/ > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: Stephen Connolly [mailto:[email protected]] > > >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:47 AM > > >>> To: Maven Developers List > > >>> Subject: Re: Java version usage survey > > >>> > > >>> I've put a question on Stack Overflow: > > >>> > > >>> > > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17671899/when-is-java-6-end-of-life-in-the-context-of-writing-developer-toolsto > > >>> see if we can get something that is a bit more focus on facts. > > >>> > > >>> e.g. we are all OSS developers: thus premium/extended/sustaining > > support > > >>> contracts are outside our budget. If we cannot test it for free, we > > cannot > > >>> support it. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On 16 July 2013 09:01, Fred Cooke <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> My 2c: > > >>>> > > >>>> - J7 on Mac is unstable (trust me...) and non-performant, and > thus I > > >>>> require my users to use Apple's J6 on the Mac. > > >>>> - On Linux there are lots of Swing bugs in all versions, but a lot > > >>> less > > >>>> in J7 than J6, so I recommend J7 for Linux guys. > > >>>> - I don't use J5 for anything at all and none of my code can run > on > > it > > >>>> due to basics that are missing there. > > >>>> > > >>>> I didn't distinguish vendors because the comments apply across all > of > > >>>> them anyway. > > >>>> Fred. > > >>>> > > >>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Chris Graham <[email protected] > > > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Hi Arnaud. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> You need to at least add an OTHER (ie non oracle) entry as well. > You > > >>>>> you can track Oracle java 6 and Non-Oracle java 6. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> -Chris > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Arnaud Héritier > > >>>>> <[email protected] > > >>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> Good point. I updated the survey to tell it is the Oracle JDK EOL > > >>>>>> Survey : > > >>>> > > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Jqxq2KgSricwS7YV7pmWvHA8m7_TE7c8Jhusu > > >>>> gPmGW4/viewform > > >>>>>> Replies : > > >>>> > > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Jqxq2KgSricwS7YV7pmWvHA8m7_TE7c8Jhusu > > >>>> gPmGW4/viewanalytics > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Chris Graham > > >>>>>> <[email protected]> > > >>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Arnaud Héritier < > > >>>> [email protected] > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Hi, > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Java 6 EOL was in feb and Maven and its plugins are always > > >>>>> compatible > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Oracle Java 6 was EOL'd. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> IBM Java 6 was, and is not due to be for a few more years. They > > >>>>>>> even > > >>>>>>> *extended* 1.5's life for a year. Sept this year, I think. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> -Chris > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> -- > > >>>>>> ----- > > >>>>>> Arnaud Héritier > > >>>>>> http://aheritier.net > > >>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype : aheritier > > >>> > > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Olivier Lamy > > > Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au > > > http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > -- ----- Arnaud Héritier http://aheritier.net Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype : aheritier
