I have not seen any issues with the JPackage Fedora
RPMs, and have been running with them for about 2
months now.

I just followed the instructions here:
http://fedoranews.org/mediawiki/index.php/JPackage_Java_for_FC4

They even let you easily switch between Java
implementation using an "Alternatives" system.



--- Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jason van Zyl wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Have you ever tried using a cleaning installed
> Redhat and trying to use 
> > the Java stuff that's installed? In the recent
> past I spent an hour 
> > trying to figure out why AMQ tests were failing
> and it was because gjc 
> > was picking stuff up instead of the JDK I
> installed. Then I had to go 
> > remove some packages and nuke some weird symlinks.
> Multiply that by who 
> > knows how many people using Java on RedHat and I
> hope you understand.
> 
> 
> You need better diagnostics.
> I (accidentally) tested on the default JVMs last
> month, and did find 
> things break in interesting ways. The fact that the
> system in question 
> was a firewall and an SSH-connection away merely
> complicated the matter.
> 
> Nowadays we catch bits, such as here where I use
> reflection to load in a 
> class that implements  sun.misc.SignalHandler, and
> which doesnt load on 
> gjc Java.
> 
>         if (addShutdownHook) {
>              try {
>                  Class irqHandlerClass =
> Class.forName(INTERRUPT_HANDLER);
>                  Constructor constructor = 
> irqHandlerClass.getConstructor(new Class[0]);
>                  InterruptHandler
> handler=(InterruptHandler) 
> constructor.newInstance(new Object[0]);
>                  handler.bind("INT", sfLog());
>              } catch (Exception e) {
>                  sfLog().error("Could not create an
> interrupt handler 
> from "+ INTERRUPT_HANDLER
>                          +"\nSmartFrog may be
> running on a JVM which 
> does not support this feature",e);
>              }
>          }
> 
> We could go the other way and detect when we were
> runing on a 'free' JVM 
> by looking for kaffe, classpath or harmony classes
> and logging/warning 
> on that. Its not that we want to say 'you are
> running on someone else's 
> JVM, stop it', so much as 'you are running on
> something we have never 
> tested, please fix all the problems you encounter
> and submit the patches 
> and test results'
> 
> > Give me a break, I've actually tried this shit and
> it doesn't work and 
> > it is extremely frustrating. I've used some form
> of RedHat for a very 
> > long time and the Java stuff has yet to be a
> satisfying experience. And 
> > that's what I'm afraid of for the user base.
> > 
> > Jason.
> 
> I concur, but dont think it always has to be this
> way. I also think its 
> a shame that the mono experience on Linux is better
> than the Java one. 
> Admittedly, Sun have been half the problem, but as
> that is slowly being 
> addressed, the rest of the java world has to move up
> to the challenge.
> 
> Stefano M. is now running Gump on Harmony BTW.
> 
> -steve
> 
> 
> -Steve
> 
>
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