On 13 Dec 06, at 10:26 AM 13 Dec 06, Carl Trieloff wrote:
I don't see that there is a consistent view yet on this. It would
be nice to get to a conclusion on whether the Maven community would
like to work with the downstream distros teams so that we can
provide a consistent and good experience. Is there any more
information that is needed to get to a view point, and if so how
can I help?
If the distros works with us to provide something that is familiar to
our current users, to which our documentation, practices, and current
body of user knowledge apply then I don't think anyone would be
opposed here. So that means:
- Using an installation layout that is consistent with our current setup
- Using the Maven repository as the source for satisfying
dependencies for development work
- Maven running with a standard JDK and not being compiled with GJC
or anything weird like that. With Java being GPL now that shouldn't
be a problem
Any variation from this I would consider potentially harmful to Maven
users and I personally would tell people to avoid the potential
complication for their enterprise environments. Simply conveying my
first hand experience. I really think this is the only way you're
going to get buy-in from from Maven users and would be a win-win for
everyone involved. I have far stronger opinions about this stuff and
you certainly don't need my buy in to do whatever you want and I'm
sure others here would work with you. I just don't see the point
frankly if you roll something different.
A couple questions that weren't really answered were:
- How far into the graph do you need to build from sources
- Would a self-contained Maven repository with the binary
dependencies work and then build Maven itself from source or do you
want to walk back down the entire graph?
- Are you guys willing to compromise and make something that uses our
current layout. I think we could live with some symlinks to /usr/bin
or whatever
Jason.
Carl.
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