Andrei POPESCU <andreimpope...@gmail.com> writes: > On Ma, 11 sep 12, 14:24:22, lee wrote: >> >> The question is not what is part of what, the question is what is >> needed. Since you need a working computer to install an OS on a >> computer, why can't we have that with an installation media so we can >> switch between the actual installer and the working system simply by >> pressing a key/button? > > You can press (Ctrl+)Alt+F1 to get a console :p > > (SCNR)
Wasn't that F3? And then you try to start a web browser and it says "command not found". Not even less is available, only more, which I otherwise never use :( Then try to burn a CD or something ... Emacs? Command not found ... joe ... command not found ... vi ... command not found ... vim ... command not found ... I don't remember what works, nano maybe? Or pico? Or what? find ... command not found ... shit :( Now what? ls -laR | more, yuck q ... tab tab y ... hmmm ... I don't get along with vi. A clueless user just might (if he is able to use a keyboard, which most of them aren't) because it's new to him --- if he could look up the documentation and had any idea that there is such a thing as vi. >> When the actual installer asks me a question I cannot answer or when I >> find out I need to download something to proceed with the installation, >> I can just switch to the working system and google for an answer or >> download what I need. That's basically what the working system needs to >> provide me with; I don't need to run gimp or to compile emacs on it. > > Yes, I know what you mean. This is called a "live installer" and I > understand Ubuntu has one: you boot into a live system you can try out > and if you want to install it you select something from the menu and the > installation runs in the background. > > I'm guessing Debian's Installer would need quite some rework to enable > it to work on an already running (possibly live) system. Lots of packages would have to be added, I guess. When you think of it, the installer just boots a kernel and runs a minimal system and mainly the installer on it. If some more packages were added, we could have at least a good choice of editors and lynx. There's the GUI installer as well. I never tried it, but why can't they just add seamonkey or another GUI browser and some program that can burn CDs/DVDs? Because they want to keep the disk images small? -- Debian testing amd64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87fw6oythb....@yun.yagibdah.de
