"Morel Bérenger" <berenger.mo...@neutralite.org> writes:

> I personally use non-free softwares (well... flash, wifi drivers and
> opera, for the two firsts I do not really have choice) but I know that
> Debian's way is not really to provide such tools.
> Ubuntu does it.

You and I might know this. I only know it because I've been running into
problems because of it. The arbitrary clueless person doesn't know it.

> About an automated install, did you tried the "auto" way?

Yes, and it didn't work, either. It doesn't matter, though, because the
automated way doesn't create the RAID and doesn't even partition in a
way I would want. How is it supposed to know what I want?

> Well, honestly, I think the better thing for a true end-user system would
> be an installer which install a debian stable distro with non-free enabled
> by default,

Pre-installed would be better. Look at a modern HP notebook, for
example. You install the battery and you turn it on and the battery is
even charged enough so that it runs. It'll ask you what language you
want to use and what language keyboard you have and maybe for a user
name and some passwords, and that's it.

That windoze and the default setup they use suck isn't the point. You do
get a working system, and everything works. It takes only about 10
minutes, depending on how fast you are, and you don't need another
already working computer to download extra stuff or to look for
information.

That's probably what's called "end user system". It's totally useless to
me other than for preparing to put Debian on it, and the arbitrary
clueless user will be really happy with it until they begin to
understand the limitations, which they probably never will.


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