On Mon, September 10, 2012 5:10 am, lee wrote: > "Weaver" <wea...@riseup.net> writes: > >> On Sun, September 9, 2012 5:18 am, lee wrote: >>> "Weaver" <wea...@riseup.net> writes: >>> >>>> But we are talking about Debian. >>>> Specifically partitioning/file system decision making during install. >>> >>> When else would you make such a decision if not before starting the >>> installation? You can't install software without a place to put it. >> >> You are quoting out of context. > > No, I'm not, you didn't get my point.
I get the point. It's just not an accurate or germaine one...because you quoted out of context. > >> What I am saying there needs advisory material placed into the >> installation process so that newbies can make INFORMED decisions and > > People aren't going to spend the time it would take them to learn > everything they need to make informed decisions about the options the > installer gives them, no matter how much documentation you put into it. And here you do it again. This is one small page, with information pertaining to partitioning and file-systems. There is no need to put documentation into the installer pertaining to every subject it addresses. There simply isn't a need that I can see. Why do you distort the direction of the discussion to that degree? > > For more than a decade now you need a working computer to install an > operating system on another one so that you can acquire information and > additional software as needed. Why isn't that included in the installer? Because that is an issue that somebody with a basic mastery over their system and sufficient experience with Debian is capable of chasing down themselves. This discussion is centred round the issue a newbie would experience when confronted by the partitioning stage of the installer. > Just boot from the installation media and be presented with a working > system and an installer, allowing you to switch between them. > > For those who don't want to or are unable to learn, have a button they > can press to perform the installation, no matter what and no questions > asked. However, those are the kind of people who better stay away from > computers, which makes it doubtful how useful such a thing would be. That is not what is being advocated and I don't see the relevance with Debian either. The whole exercise is a requirement to advise. Not remove choice or the power of personal decision making over even a newbie's system. An advisory, of this nature, as I have already said, would be the first step that supplies that revelatory "Ah Hah!" moment that encourages exploration. Not one that inhibits access to knowledge. Regards, Weaver -- "It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." -- Thomas Paine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8250ec07a96c777a152cf542270e92f5.squir...@fulvetta.riseup.net