On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 01:12:48PM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 06:07:58PM +0100, Andreas Henriksson wrote:
[..]
> > That sbuild *only* looks at the first alternative doesn't seem
> > to be the whole truth.
> 
> No, really - It does :)
[...]

Using "valac (>= not-yet-in-archive) | valac-0.XX" is something
I've done myself many times and it definitely worked on
Debian buildds. As far as I know it's the
recommended way to depend on a valac version which has
not yet been made the default.

So I have to say - No, really - it doesn't! :P

If you don't believe me, please see the (git) history of rygel,
compare uploaded versions build logs against the state of the
default vala in the archive at the time.

Anyway, there obviously seem to be some difference here
that makes my dependency example not being the same as
the current state of lxsession.

[...]
> Ah! Better information to add; if all these packages are already rc-buggy,
> noting which are that you're intending to break would be very helpful
> indeed.

I'm not sure what you're telling me here, sorry.

This is the state of things:
- lxsession is RC-buggy and for all I care can stay in the archive for now.
  A trivial dependency change is needed on the package which I'm ok with
  NMUing if needed.
- abraca, radare and gtkaml are currently not RC buggy. The reason
  I think they're ok to remove are these:
   - their "maintainers" apparently don't care to upload trivial fixes.
   - I'd prefer not doing NMUs of packages who are abandoned (and in
     my own point of view not useful to keep/adopt).
   - See their install base on popcon..... noone will miss them.
     (If someone does, there's still time now for them to upload a
     new version building with recent vala and make it into jessie.)

Please tell me if I should go ahead with the lxsession NMU, and/or
other things I can help out with here.

Without more feedback I'll have to assume noone appreciate the big
amount of work that has gone into trying to clean up the archive
w.r.t valac-0.14 and that I shouldn't waste any more time doing so
for ie. valac-0.16 and others... If you say it's ok to consider
the archive a sesspool of abandoned old crap, then I'm ok with it
- but I'd like to hear you say it so I don't get blamed for not
cleaning up after myself (and others).

Regards,
Andreas Henriksson


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