one other point:

Reese wrote:
> >let me guess: you've never been to europe.
> 
> Irrelevant.  

you sure? 
"I have no basis, nor experience for my claim, but that's irrelevant."

let's discuss some smalltalk. I know almost nothing about that, but just
for the fun of it, I'll claim it's object-oriented. (if it really is,
please insert a "not" at the appropriate position)

:))

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