Dear all, the import of the phrase in bold is not clear to me. The property or relation itself does not have to be part of the CRM, but *assertions about it *are? Can this be clarified using the examples? Martijn
On Tue, Jan 13, 2026 at 2:40 PM Eleni Tsouloucha via Crm-sig < [email protected]> wrote: > Dear all, > > Please reply by yes or no to the proposal formally made at the 61st SIG > meeting, namely to add the clause marked *in boldface* to the scope note > of E13 Attribute Assignment. > The reason that the group would not vote on it at the time, is that it was > made at the meeting. > > You have until the end of next week (23 January 2026) to vote on it. > > ++++++++++++++ > E13 Attribute Assignment > Subclass of: E7 Activity > > Superclass of: E14 Condition Assessment, E15 Identifier Assignment, E16 > Measurement, E17 Type Assignment > > Scope note: This class comprises the actions of making assertions about > one property of an object or any single relation between two items or > concepts. *The property or relation does not have to be part of the CRM.* > The type of the property asserted to hold between two items or concepts can > be described by the property P177 assigned property of type (is type of > property assigned): E55 Type. > > For example, the class describes the actions of people making propositions > and statements during certain scientific/scholarly procedures, e.g., the > person and date when a condition statement was made, an identifier was > assigned, the museum object was measured, etc. Which kinds of such > assignments and statements need to be documented explicitly in structures > of a schema rather than free text, depends on whether this information > should be accessible by structured queries. > > This class allows for the documentation of how the respective assignment > came about, and whose opinion it was. Note that all instances of properties > described in a knowledge base are the opinion of someone. Per default, they > are the opinion of the team maintaining the knowledge base. This fact must > not individually be registered for all instances of properties provided by > the maintaining team, because it would result in an endless recursion of > whose opinion was the description of an opinion. Therefore, the use of > instances of E13 Attribute Assignment marks the fact that the maintaining > team is in general neutral to the validity of the respective assertion, but > registers someone else’s opinion and how it came about. > > All properties assigned in such an action can also be seen as directly > relating the respective pair of items or concepts. Multiple use of > instances of E13 Attribute Assignment may possibly lead to a collection of > contradictory values. > > Examples: > > - the examination of MS Sinai Greek 418 by Nicholas Pickwoad in > November 2003 (Honey & Pickwoad, 2010) > - the assessment of the current ownership of Martin Doerr’s silver cup > in February 1997 (fictitious) > > In first-order logic: E13(x) ⇒ E7(x) > > Properties: > P140 assigned attribute to (was attributed by): E1 CRM Entity > P141 assigned (was assigned by): E1 CRM Entity > P177 assigned property of type (is type of property assigned): E55 Type > > +++++++++++++ > > All the best, > > -- > Eleni Tsouloucha > Philologist - MA Linguistics & Language Technologies > Center for Cultural Informatics > Information Systems Laboratory - Institute of Computer Science > Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) > > Address: N. Plastira 100, GR-70013 Heraklion, Grece > email: [email protected], [email protected] > Tel: +30 2810391488 > _______________________________________________ > Crm-sig mailing list > [email protected] > http://cidoc-crm.org/crm-sig-mailing-list > -- Dr. Martijn van Leusen Associate Professor, Landscape Archaeology, Groningen Institute of Archaeology Poststraat 6, 9712ER Groningen (Netherlands) / phone +31 50 3636717 / +31 6 18798873 Academia page <https://rug.academia.edu/MartijnvanLeusen> - Google Scholar page <https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=H6OP3MUAAAAJ>
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