-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Vincent Danen wrote: > On Wed Oct 01, 2003 at 06:58:50PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: > > >>>>I know all of this, just because i've been there for 4 years now. My >> >>point is >> >>>>that i'm fed up with oral tradition. No one knows about contribs outside >>>>cooker communauty. Among the few newbies that know about urpmi, they >> >>always >> >>>>use urpmi.update whereas none of their sources ever change. Etc... >>>> >>>>What we lack here is a clear explanation of mdk functionning targeted at >>>>outside world. >>> >>>Your problem then is not the lack of a policy defining support (or lack >>>thereof) for contribs then. Your problem is the lack of awareness of >>>contribs. > > > You took my message out of context. When I meant "your problem" I meant the > problem he was discussing. Maybe I should have said "your issue is" rather > than use the word problem. > > >>Actually, it's not our problem. It's Mandrakesoft's problem. People think: >>- -Redhat is better on a server >>- -Debian has so many more useful packages than other distros >> >>When in fact Mandrake is as good (or better IMHO) than Redhat on a >>server, and Mandrake has more up-to-date versions of most of the >>packages Debian has. >> >>Mandrakesoft is the one trying to sell Mandrake, not us. > > > No, and I never said it was. contribs has no bearing on the server > argument. The debian comparison is valid. > > >>>I can't help you on the last one. >> >>We can't help you (Mandrakesoft) improve the image of the distro if >>you're not going to make those improvements (such as the inclusion of >>up-to-date grass packages including all features and all dependencies, >>samba3 which I am sure Redhat will be touting for their next release >>etc) visible. > > > Not sure what you mean by "grass packages".
# urpmi grass (or for a better experience with it the first time, 'spearfish-grass'). > > >>And we can't do anything more about it ... >> >>It seems as if Mandrakesoft management is embarassed to have upstanding >>community members maintain packages which they advertise, whereas Redhat >>suddenly seems not to be. > > > Can't speak for management. Don't even want to try. > > My point regarding contribs has been made over and over again. I'm tired of > repeating myself. I made a suggestion regarding how "contrib updates" could > be distributed and was basically told it was too much work and that it was a > stupid idea. Fine. I'm still waiting for suggestions. I gave my opinion > and a solution and, as seems to be the case so often on this list, people > bitch and complain about a proposed potential solution but don't offer > anything better. I didn't read Guillaume's mail as pertaining solely to updates for contrib, but the whole issue of contrib being totally unknown and/or unadvertised beyond cooker-types due to the fact that it is given no publicity (something like "Mandrakesoft cannot include all the available packages in the 3 GPL CDs, however many more packages are available on the FTP mirrors as the 'contrib' urpmi medium"). > > If you can't think of anything better, then don't knock a valid suggestion. I am happy with updates in Club, but I don't think the complaint was limited to updates. > > Suddenly I'm getting very tired of all of this again. Seems no matter how > hard you try, someone has something negative to say without contributing > something useful. > ftp://ftp.sun.ac.za/mandrake/mandrake-devel/unsupported/MandrakeClub/9.1/i586/pam_smb-1.1.7-1mdk.i586.rpm Regards, Buchan - -- |--------------Another happy Mandrake Club member--------------| Buchan Milne Mechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work +27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/exm6rJK6UGDSBKcRAiyhAKCFjcMPoANBAWU78CU+CsW18GsjVgCggi4Q c5G7Fm1aOyvA8Fd4RodSQ6o= =zM1J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ***************************************************************** Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *****************************************************************
