On Wed Oct 01, 2003 at 06:58:50PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: > >>I know all of this, just because i've been there for 4 years now. My > point is > >>that i'm fed up with oral tradition. No one knows about contribs outside > >>cooker communauty. Among the few newbies that know about urpmi, they > always > >>use urpmi.update whereas none of their sources ever change. Etc... > >> > >>What we lack here is a clear explanation of mdk functionning targeted at > >>outside world. > > > > Your problem then is not the lack of a policy defining support (or lack > > thereof) for contribs then. Your problem is the lack of awareness of > > contribs.
You took my message out of context. When I meant "your problem" I meant the problem he was discussing. Maybe I should have said "your issue is" rather than use the word problem. > Actually, it's not our problem. It's Mandrakesoft's problem. People think: > - -Redhat is better on a server > - -Debian has so many more useful packages than other distros > > When in fact Mandrake is as good (or better IMHO) than Redhat on a > server, and Mandrake has more up-to-date versions of most of the > packages Debian has. > > Mandrakesoft is the one trying to sell Mandrake, not us. No, and I never said it was. contribs has no bearing on the server argument. The debian comparison is valid. > > I can't help you on the last one. > > We can't help you (Mandrakesoft) improve the image of the distro if > you're not going to make those improvements (such as the inclusion of > up-to-date grass packages including all features and all dependencies, > samba3 which I am sure Redhat will be touting for their next release > etc) visible. Not sure what you mean by "grass packages". > And we can't do anything more about it ... > > It seems as if Mandrakesoft management is embarassed to have upstanding > community members maintain packages which they advertise, whereas Redhat > suddenly seems not to be. Can't speak for management. Don't even want to try. My point regarding contribs has been made over and over again. I'm tired of repeating myself. I made a suggestion regarding how "contrib updates" could be distributed and was basically told it was too much work and that it was a stupid idea. Fine. I'm still waiting for suggestions. I gave my opinion and a solution and, as seems to be the case so often on this list, people bitch and complain about a proposed potential solution but don't offer anything better. If you can't think of anything better, then don't knock a valid suggestion. Suddenly I'm getting very tired of all of this again. Seems no matter how hard you try, someone has something negative to say without contributing something useful. -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ Online Security Resource Book; http://linsec.ca/ "lynx -source http://linsec.ca/vdanen.asc | gpg --import" {FE6F2AFD : 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD}
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