MaskRay added a comment.

In D120305#3347103 <https://reviews.llvm.org/D120305#3347103>, @tstellar wrote:

> In D120305#3347058 <https://reviews.llvm.org/D120305#3347058>, @nemanjai 
> wrote:
>
>> In D120305#3346880 <https://reviews.llvm.org/D120305#3346880>, @MaskRay 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> While I feel sorry for leaving clang-ppc64le-rhel red for some time and am 
>>> willing to fix issues if I have access to a ppc64 machine (especially 
>>> compiler-rt ones that I care about),
>>> I feel uncomfortably if a group just bluntly request "please pull this 
>>> patch" when apparently (a) there is a better approach (explicitly setting 
>>> CLANG_DEFAULT_PIE_ON_LINUX=OFF) and (b) there is something a bot maintainer 
>>> can do
>>> and (c) there is just some inherent stability problem (in this case, 
>>> consider not enabling the testing when the target is still unstable) that 
>>> is causing not only this issue, but various other reports (as I watch 
>>> sanitizer failures quite closely and ppc64 often tends to be the outlier 
>>> thing)
>>
>> Statements like this seem to be at odds with this community's culture (or at 
>> least the way I understand it).
>> As long as I have been a member of this community, the guidance for patches 
>> that break bots is to fix it immediately if the fix is obvious/trivial and 
>> if it isn't, to pull the patch until a solution can be found. I am not aware 
>> of any changes to this policy. I would also like to add that this approach 
>> serves most other members of the community quite well and at least I 
>> personally don't see much opposition to this. Frankly, the only person I 
>> have ever received a response that amounts to "I would rather not" when 
>> asking them to pull a patch that breaks bots is yourself.
>
> @nemanjai Is correct here.

May I beg that you read my reply first and give more evidence when standing by 
one party?
You as a https://foundation.llvm.org/docs/board/ member, your words weigh a 
lot, but with great power comes great responsibility, so every judgement needs 
to be made prudently.

> @MaskRay  I feel like we are starting to repeat the same discussion we had 
> with the start-stop-gc patches, and I would like to have a better outcome 
> this time.  Can you please just revert the patch and then we can discuss the 
> next steps.

Everyone wants to discuss start-stop-gc can go to 
https://discourse.llvm.org/t/lld-default-nostart-stop-gc-default-on-release-13-x-and-main/5369
Please don't conflate things here. I felt bad that people used an unguaranteed 
behavior as granted and accused/attacked me of changes.
I think time has proved my correctness: I don't think anyone sees new wacky 
things in this area.


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