Thanks!  The analogy helps.  The trick is you don't have to reconcile and
track your mud flap count/usage to maintain compliance.  Once you buy the
off-road package you are done.

So I guess what is missing is the documentation that lists the packages and
what they contain.

Agreed that license has always been bit of a pain but at one point we
received a list of exactly what we were entitled to.  Service Desk was the
start of licensing issue because you had to translate that into 1 for
Incident and 1 for Problem; but it could still be counted and configured.
 Before that we received something similar to:

Help Desk User Fixed 5 Pack
Help Desk User Fixed 5 Pack
Help Desk User Fixed 5 Pack
Help Desk User Floating 5 Pack
Help Desk User Floating Custom (qty 18)
AR User Floating 5 Pack
AR User Floating 5 Pack
AR User Fixed 5 Pack


Now that I can count :)

I look forward to whatever solution BMC comes up with (as long as it
doesn't require a license).

Jason




On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Easter, David <[email protected]>wrote:

> **
>
> The answer is because the license is different than the sales bundle.
> “Service Management Specialist” is a sales bundle.  “AR User Fixed” is a
> license contained in that bundle.****
>
> ** **
>
> Think of it this way – when you buy a car, they offer you bundles of
> stuff.  For example, they may offer you an “Off-Road” bundle that includes
> heavy duty floor mats, mud flaps for the tires, a brush cutter on the front
> bumper and bigger tires.  When you buy that bundle, you’re not given a
> thing called an “Off-Road”- you’re given all the contents of the bundle.**
> **
>
> ** **
>
> The ITSM Suite bundles are the same way.  When you buy a bundle, you are
> given the licenses contained in that bundle.  For example, If you buy the
> *BMC Remedy Suite – Floating User Add-On License *bundle, you get:****
>
> ** **
>
> **·         ***BMC:Incident Mgmt User Floating license*****
>
> **·         ***BMC:Problem Mgmt User Floating license*****
>
> **·         ***BMC:Change Mgmt User Floating license*****
>
> **·         ***BMC:Asset Mgmt User Floating license*****
>
> **·         ***BMC:Service Level Mgmt User Floating license*****
>
> **·         ***AR User Floating license*****
>
> ** **
>
> Along with some additional entitlements that are legal, but not entered
> into AR System as a license.****
>
> ** **
>
> Note that everyone’s been dealing with this for years and years – it’s not
> new to the ITSM Suite.  When you bought a Service Desk license under legacy
> pricing, there’s no “Service Desk user license” in AR System to enter.  You
> had a “*BMC:Incident Mgmt User Floating license*” and a “*BMC:Problem
> Mgmt User Floating license*”. ****
>
> ** **
>
> There is absolutely a need to provide some sort of mapping/utility that
> says “when you buy X sales bundle, you get Y licenses”, though – I
> completely agree with that.  It’s a recognized pain point for the customer
> base and there are certainly internal discussions on how to try and lessen
> the confusion caused by the sales bundle model.****
>
> ** **
>
> -David J. Easter****
>
> Manager of Product Management, AR System****
>
> BSM & Atrium Solutions Management****
>
> BMC Software, Inc.****
>
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> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jason Miller
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:19 AM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: License question****
>
> ** **
>
> ** ****
>
> I don't see "Service Management Specialist" anywhere in the config.  Why
> does the configuration and legal license naming have to be so convoluted?*
> ***
>
> ** **
>
> Is there anybody out there who has been able to take the documentation
> that indicates your licensed capacity (sent when you purchase or renew
> support) and then go configure an AR server with the appropriate number of
> licenses for the various types?****
>
> ** **
>
> Sorry for the mini rant but this is one area that has gotten worse over
> the years.  It seems we need to hire professional services just to map
> legaleze/licenseze to how the server is configured.****
>
> ** **
>
> Jason****
>
> ** **
>
> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Easter, David <[email protected]>
> wrote:****
>
> The ITSM Suite user license bundle that you'd need is the Service
> Management Specialist.
>
> -David J. Easter
> Manager of Product Management, AR System
> BSM & Atrium Solutions Management
> BMC Software, Inc.
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 11:05 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: License question
>
> Hi,
>
> The task forms does not seem to be tagged with a licensed application.
>
> In other words, an AR User Fixed/Floating would be adequate.
>
> Check with your sales rep what kind of license you should actually order.
> Probably a Specialist Fixed/Floating...
>
>         Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://rrr.se
>
> > I was wondering if anyone knew what type of license a user would need if
> they
> > were just working on modifying tasks in Task Management.  I see Task User
> > doesn't have a license type required, but would they need to have an AR
> User
> > Floating/Fixed?
> >
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