Ah, so you're talking buying a Developer Edition of Remedy and that's it? Not buying a Developer Edition tied to a customer who owns other products.
On one hand, you would think that in order for BMC to sell a copy of their product for a cheap price that allows more than a few thousand records, they would have to come up with some other way of keeping small companies from using the product and not purchasing it. On the other hand, I wonder what would happen if BMC did offer a "starter" edition of Remedy with a small floating user limit included and a decent number of records to developers and small companies for cheap, with pay per incident support. Maybe that would increase the market share of Remedy to the point that BMC would see a return on investment in the number of users that grow into and purchase product and support; or purchase it based on developer recommendations. Interesting thoughts. Jeff From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel Bloom Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 9:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Service-now.com NOW BMC Remedy licensing ** Good information, however, we were talking about being a Developer: How much would it cost to have one licensed user of al the products you list? i think you would still find it to be cost prohibitive, as is even the initial 12K. .... Dan _____ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Lockemy (QMX Support Services) Sent: April 24, 2010 11:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Service-now.com ** I apologize if someone already brought this up and I missed it, but I would recommend looking into BMC's new licensing model. They refer to it as "blue" pricing versus the old "green" pricing. Under the blue pricing model you buy one "BMC Remedy IT Service Management Suite" (was about $12K retail) and you get an unlimited amount of licensed installs for the following modules: . Remedy AR System Server . Remedy Flashboards Application . Remedy Knowledge Management Application with 1 User . Remedy Migrator . Remedy Encryption Performance Security . Remedy Developer Plus . Remedy Distributed Server Option (DSO) . Remedy Service Desk Application . Remedy Asset Management Application . Remedy Change Management Application . Remedy Service Level Management . BMC Analytics for BSM . BMC Dashboards for BSM . Remedy Change Management Dashboard . Atrium CMDB . Service Management Process Model for Service Support . Service Management Process Model for Service Delivery . Unlimited number of servers You spend $12,000 (or less) for that one line item and you will NEVER have to buy another module. You NEVER need a demo or trial license key to install ARS or any of the other modules ever again. You can have as many licensed production, quality assurance, test, development, etc servers that you wish. You just have to buy whatever USER licenses that you wish to use on those servers. Under blue pricing, the USER licenses are a bit more expensive in most cases. But the other thing that makes the blue pricing model attractive is that you pay maintenance on the PURCHASE price of the license, not the RETAIL price. For customers that buy their licenses at a good discount off retail, your maintenance can be considerably less. So you will pay a bit more for the USER license at purchase time, but you can save that and more in the following years that you pay in maintenance. For one of our customers, maintenance under green would have been $120K annually and by going to blue their maintenance was $90K. One catch though, you can't just switch from green to blue whenever you want. There is a whole migration methodology that BMC uses to determine how much of a migration credit you get for your green licenses towards a blue conversion. To make the conversion work, you have to spend some more money. But if you are preparing to purchase some new licenses or renew your support contract anyhow, I strongly encourage you to look into this new pricing before your fork out the dough. You may be able to use that money to make a conversion to blue. Even if you are using custom apps, blue pricing can save you money. We are a BMC partner and can answer any questions or provide you with a migration quote. Let us know if we can help. Cheers, Jeff Jeff Lockemy Solution Architect QMX Support Services Inc. (858) 366-8979 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 5:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Service-now.com ** I am not looking for an unlimited Demo. This is not a sales issue. My technical needs are: a demo with access all year round with a reasonable level of records. (not 2000) I wish BMC would have consideration for the developers (i.e. a Developer's Edition so developers can work it). If they offered a Developer's edition for a reasonable price, I would buy it. They just get on my nerves - which is why I am looking at other products. _attend WWRUG10 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ _attend WWRUG10 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug10 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
