That sounds wonderful.. much better approach..
Sounds very hopeful to me now... Thanks... Alot !!!!

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Easter, David <[email protected]> wrote:

> ** While the Developer Studio is based on Eclipse, it is presented and
> distributed as a BMC application and thus fully supported by BMC.  The
> customer does not have access to the open source for Developer Studio
> itself.  In addition, the customer does *not* install Eclipse and then a
> BMC provided plug-in - it all comes together as one released application.
> So I would expect that it falls under your "packaged software" description.
>
>
> -David J. Easter
> Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development
> BMC Software, Inc.
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>  ------------------------------
>  *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *patrick zandi
> *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2009 12:23 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Open Source in AR System (was: RE: ARS 7.5?)
>
> **
>  Great response,
> will read up on this. However the issue is not the opensource software
> included inside the released application (via cots).
> The issue from what I understand is the Eclipse, it is not allowed because
> it is opensource software. So it Remedy Packaged it into their software and
> certified that this version of Eclipse in our COTS application is ok, safe..
> Then it is ok.
> But I will look into this a little more.. thanks...
>
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Easter, David <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> ** > ars 7.5 is based on open source -- and thus the Gov will not allow
>> you to use it as well.
>>
>> That's a confusing statement, since previous versions of AR System have
>> included open source technology as well, yet the Gov (and I assume you mean
>> US Government) continues to use it.  AR System 7.5.00 has a similar amount
>> of open source as previous releases.  However, even that being the case, it
>> is not "based on open source".
>>
>> Open source technologies used are documented in the "Third Party
>> Supplementary Materials Files - 97065 [Not Required to Install this BMC
>> Product]<https://webapps.bmc.com/epd/faces/download.jsp?ein=97065&ersln=88698&pvsn=LP757.7.5.00>"
>> download available from the EPD if one wishes to review it.  I have not yet
>> heard of a situation where a government institution could not use AR System
>> due to its use of some off-the-shelf and open source technologies.
>> Typically, once the afore mentioned document is reviewed, there are no
>> further impediments.  Perhaps there have been individual interpretations
>> that specific sites have made on such, but the general statement you make is
>> not true to the best of my knowledge.
>>
>> -David J. Easter
>> Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development
>> BMC Software, Inc.
>>
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>> this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
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>> spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
>> Inc.
>>
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>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *patrick zandi
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2009 11:48 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: ARS 7.5?
>>
>> ** Gary,
>> you might be unsupported on both ends..
>> ars 6.3 is now unsupported,
>> ars 7.5 is based on open source -- and thus the Gov will not allow you to
>> use it as well.
>>  (this might end up getting changed -- but for now)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Great, now I'm unsupported :(
>>>
>>> Gary
>>> ARS 6.3
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony Worthington
>>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:33 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: ARS 7.5?
>>>
>>> And if you go into the ITSM applications you will find 7.5 there as
>>> well.  :-)
>>>
>>> 7.5.00 BMC Remedy Asset Management Application 16-Jan-2009 16-Jan-2009
>>> 16-Jan-2009
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From:   "Frank, Gordon M. (CMS/CTR)" <[email protected]>
>>> To:     [email protected]
>>> Date:   01/16/2009 12:38 PM
>>> Subject:        Re: ARS 7.5?
>>> Sent by:        "Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)"
>>> <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>> ARS 7.5 has just been released!!!!!!
>>>
>>> It is in the Supportweb Downloads, and the name of the download is
>>>
>>> "BMC Remedy AR System Server"
>>>
>>> Gordon M. Frank
>>> Lockheed Martin
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>>> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of
>>> Joe D'Souza
>>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:29 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: ARS 7.5?
>>>
>>> I wonder how different it is from the very initial release they gave
>>> away a year ago called the Dev Studio. I liked the fact that it was much
>>> faster as it didn't do a million searches when opening any workflow
>>> objects and did a search only when needed. I thought that was cool and
>>> was great performance wise..
>>>
>>> Joe
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>>> [email protected]
>>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:04 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: ARS 7.5?
>>> **
>>> Im most curious about the new Admin client, Eclipse based !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Scott Parrish <[email protected]>
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>>>
>>> 16.01.2009 17:45
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> Subject
>>> Re: ARS 7.5?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> During the final call for the open beta it was announced that ARS 7.5
>>> would be released today. More than likely it will be tonight as I am
>>> sure that BMC doesn't want/need everyone downloading at the same time
>>> during business hours. We were told during the call that there would be
>>> an announcement on the BMC website (main site or support web, I'm not
>>> sure) when the download is available.
>>>
>>> ITSM 7.5 should also be available today.
>>>
>>> Scott Parrish
>>> IT Prophets
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>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>>> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of
>>> Oliva Millonig, Patricia
>>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:35 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: ARS 7.5?
>>>
>>> A support engineer from BMC just told me that Remedy 7.5 is being
>>> released today...is that true?
>>>
>>> -Tricia
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