And how were the two CMDBs used? Who used them? How frequently? How was
the data kept up-to-snuff?

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** No, I have worked on two production CMDB's.

In the short term, manual population is OK. Very soon a plan should be
formulated (in fact it should be at the design of the data model stage)
for auto population though, if for nothing else, verification purposes. 

They are complex to set up, mostly at the modelling stage - building is
the least of the problem!

Chris


On Nov 29, 2007 3:31 PM, Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE <
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        Thanks, Jason.  So you're committed to doing all of the
population 
        manually? You're not worried that the whole thing will become
        unmanageable and the data become stale?
        
        Anybody else? Who else has a full-blown CMDB in production?
Should I
        interpret the silence as an indication that *no one* has a real
world 
        CMDB in production?!
        

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        We currently only have a few thousand (less than 5k) CIs however
a large 
        inventorying initiative is currently underway and we are
expecting to
        start
        receiving spreadsheets to import soon. I expect that we will hit
the
        tens of
        thousands fairly soon and then taper off for a bit.
        
        Yes, we have IT related CIs and other specialty CIs all in the
Computer
        System class. One of the enhancements we made was to add a
project name
        field and row level security is base on the project that is
selected. So 
        if
        a tech is on a more IT-centric project that person would never
know that
        there are radars in the system other then it being listed in the
CTIs.
        
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        Thanks for the great examples! I have a question since you
brought up
        the idea of autodiscovery (or the lack thereof)--how many CIs
(ballpark)
        do you have?
        
        And do you have IT-related CIs mixed in with non-IT stuff?
Computer 
        systems along with RADAR, etc.?
        
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        **
        
        Hi Norm,
        
        
        
        We have a CMDB (1.1 with ITSM 6) and we pretty much use it like
Asset 
        Management 4 (I haven't worked with 5.x but I don't think it was
too
        much different from 4). We have hidden most of the classes and
use the
        BMC_ComputerSystem for most everything from typical IT resources
to more 
        specialized DoD resources. All of the classification is done by
CTI just
        like the old days.
        
        
        
        When we started on our journey we decide with all of the
specialized
        equipment that we were not going to build classes for everything
(radar, 
        cameras, protective clothing, etc). Since this is not a typical
IT
        environment where the staff is intimately familiar with Remedy
we needed
        to keep it as simple as possible and not have menu of classes
that
        scroll off the screen when you want to create/modify/search for
an 
        asset, this is one stop shopping. We do use a handful of other
classes
        such as BMC_BulkInventory, BMC_InventoryStorage and plan on
using some
        of the software/application classes in the future.
        
        
        
        Unfortunately because CI's are located on other DoD networks
where we 
        would not be able to discover them or they are not even
discoverable
        items, all of the discovery and updating is done manually. Not
the most
        ideal situation but is a step in the right direction for our
project.
        
        
        
        Jason
        
        
        
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        **
        
        With the ongoing discussion of the OOB CMDB vs. a custom CMDB, I
am very
        interested in discussing how CMDB's are actually being used in
the 
        field.
        
        
        
        In other words, for those who have implemented CMDBs and have
them
        populated, what is being done with the data? Who looks at it?
How is it
        refreshed?
        
        
        
        I am particularly interested in real world use, not theory. 
        
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