On Feb 12, 2014, at 9:09 PM, Matthew Kaufman <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> On 2/12/14, 5:43 PM, David Conrad wrote:
>> And by the way, continuing to try to associate transfers between mutually 
>> agreeable parties as theft or illegal activity isn't really helping the 
>> conversation.
> 
> +1. Especially when the transfers involve addresses for which no RSA has been 
> signed. Either ARIN should stop maintaining a registry of pre-ARIN-assigned 
> no-RSA-associated addresses altogether, or ensure that such a registry is 
> relatively accurate.
> 

Fair enough… Would you consider the sale of alcohol to a minor a more apt 
metaphor for the attempt to transfer resources registered to one party to 
another party which is ineligible to receive them under policy?

The registry is accurate. ARIN policy does apply to legacy resources, 

> I understand that ARIN *can* decide to pretend that it somehow prevents the 
> transfers from happening by refusing to record changes in "ownership" that 
> are done outside of policy (and certainly has the right to refuse to record 
> the changes, what with there being no agreement with the parties and all), 
> but I don't see how that furthers the goal of maintaining an accurate 
> registry, which I presume is why ARIN includes legacy addresses in its 
> registry at all.

I would argue that framing ARIN refusing to record transfers attempted in 
circumvention of policy as “pretending that it can prevent them” as being 
equally counterproductive to the theft analogies.

Owen

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