Hello Andy, I just tried ordering those mics. However, I couldn’t find information about international shipping. Nor how many microphones were in the package. i.e. Is this a pair of microphones as you would expect to get the binaural affect? Are there 2 mics on one Shure clip? How do you wear or carry them?
Thanks, Gena > On 14 May 2020, at 01:10, Andy via groups.io > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Casy. > > It's: > > https://www.microphones.com/microphone.cfm?urlid=BSM-9 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Casey" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > To: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:52 AM > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom > > >> Hi what site do you get thees microphones from? >> >> And about how much do they cost? >> >> >> >> On 5/13/2020 4:37 PM, Andy via groups.Io wrote: >>> Hi Hamit and list. >>> >>> Please dont underestimate the Binaural sound of street recording. >>> >>> I've already purchased 3 sets of BSM 9 Binaural microphones from America >>> and as far as I'm concerned the are the bestBinaural microphones on the >>> market today. >>> . >>> >>> I'm hoping to purchase a 4th pair but this time, I'm hoping to also >>> purchase an XLR adaptore that will convert my mini jack to an XLR along >>> with a small power pack to plug directly into my Zoom F8n! >>> >>> So please don't underestimate these wonderful microphones. >>> >>> Here is a very good example of what I'm talking about. >>> >>> Earlier today I wrote a mest to Georgena as follows: >>> >>> Hi again Georgina. >>> >>> You would not probabally believe this Georgena, unless you put your trust >>> in me totally. >>> >>> About 15 years ago, when I still held some residual vision, I made a >>> podcast called Andy's farm. >>> >>> This was posted to Blind Cool Tec and the feedback I got from all over >>> America was absolutely fantastic and very encouraging. >>> >>> Sadly BCT no longer exscists and I'd love this group to try and do >>> something the same, with podcasts along with sight seeing tours etc. >>> Unfortunately this is yet only another dream! >>> >>> I was a recently retired visual impairment manager and Pauline was a mental >>> health nurse. >>> >>> It's a lovely podcast when my wife and i were in our middle 40's. >>> >>> Pauline and I live in a farm, that is, what is now communly know here in >>> Scotland as a Small Holding. >>> >>> I had very recently retired as a visual impairment manager with my local >>> authority and Pauline was a mental health nurse. >>> >>> Georgina. This place called Meikle Aiden farm was paid outright and Pauline >>> and I lived a very special dream. >>> >>> We have loads of land with set aside just for the wiled burds, rabits and >>> hedhogs and it was just glorious and filled with love and happyness and we >>> had loads of pets and friends from the wildside community, like Guess, >>> Chickens, ducks, Dogs and Cats. It was beutiful. >>> . >>> >>> Pauline was hoping to wright a book about our love and struggle we shared >>> hoping that some people may be interested in her book. >>> >>> Because of her commitments that still eccist , she sadellly did not get >>> around to starting this. >>> >>> So I made a podcast called Andy's Farm and I still listen to it today and >>> feel very sad for all our dogs and cats that have past on since. >>> >>> The remarkable thing about this Georgina. is that my podcaste was recorded >>> using a basic Olympus DM 50 along with a pair of Bsm Binauaral microphones >>> series 9 from America. >>> >>> The quality of the sound in the podcaste i think is remarkable, giving the >>> fact that all of my recording equitment cost little more than £100. >>> >>> It makes me wonder why have I now have a Zoom F8n and why I'm ready to >>> spend hundreds of pounds on specialised microphones. >>> >>> So I'm suggesting start by going cheep as I did, learn about sound >>> recording and move up only when You'r sure there is an improvement there >>> for you. >>> >>> Regarding andy's farm, you can download my old podcaste from the following >>> site: >>> >>> Sendspace. >>> >>> https://www.sendspace.com/file/o30z3i >>> >>> Please, please consider this podcast and let me know if you think a £100 >>> total bill for the equipment was worthwhile . >>> >>> Very best wishes. >>> >>> Andy. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> To: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:17 PM >>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom >>> >>> >>>> Ah well then as far as binaural goes Larry from APH did it with in ear >>>> mics. So these you put in your ear like earpods. They use your ear canal >>>> to help shape the sound. He went to work at APH with them and an IRiver >>>> recorder. I like the effect, but I don't like how binaural mics as they >>>> are little mini me things that go in your ear have an ear bud quality to >>>> them. They don't sound as good as an actual mic you hold in your hand. >>>> >>>> On 5/13/2020 4:59 PM, John Gurd via groups.io <http://groups.io/> wrote: >>>>> I love binaural recordings. Although, as a wee flight of fancy, for that >>>>> authentic effect you'd want a plastic head to clip them to, or maybe, a >>>>> head brace to clip them to your own head to be fully immersive as you >>>>> walk down the street. Lol. >>>>> >>>>> Seriously though, I wonder what the most practical way would be to port >>>>> these things as a blind pedestrian making a mobile recording in a city >>>>> street? I'd love to try it. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Georgina >>>>> Joyce >>>>> Sent: 13 May 2020 19:46 >>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> Not sure if it is these Andy referred to. I would not consider them as >>>>> being expensive. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.microphonemadness.com/mm-bsm-9-binaural-stereo-microphones-omni-directional-with-shure-premium-holding-clips.html >>>>> >>>>> Apologies, Andy, I didn’t answer your question but as the link suggests >>>>> you are right in that they are omnidirectional. I ham going to see if I >>>>> can add them to my collection. They would be fun. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 19:22, Anders Holmberg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi! >>>>>> What are these bsm 9 mics? >>>>>> I guess they’re really expensive in price. >>>>>> /A >>>>>> >>>>>>> 13 maj 2020 kl. 00:51 skrev Georgina Joyce <[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Andy, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The better way and professional way is to mic up each member of the >>>>>>> band with a mic that has the dynamic range of that sound source. So a >>>>>>> mic for a guitarist is different to that for a vocalist. If the band >>>>>>> wanted you to make a CD for them this is what you need to do. These >>>>>>> mics would be cardioid polar pattern. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Right at the other end you have a covert recording where you would have >>>>>>> a smart phone or other recording device in your pocket and wear a tie >>>>>>> pin omnidirectional microphone. Such a recording will not include the >>>>>>> close up details as the above professional recording. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Somewhere in the middle of those two extremes is where in the real >>>>>>> every day world that we live in. The disadvantage of the >>>>>>> omnidirectional is that it picks up everything, so in the pub situation >>>>>>> someone puts a glass down on the table and it is now a part of the >>>>>>> music. I think every pub has a squeaky door, so when someone goes to >>>>>>> the toilet, those sounds become a part of the music. It is not until we >>>>>>> start recording we realise how much our mind filters out. If we want to >>>>>>> hear the band we unconsciously filter out the noise made by the others >>>>>>> in the audience. But the recorder does not filter this out, if the mic >>>>>>> hears it then it is heard on the recording. Which actually can sound >>>>>>> better than a studio recording because it has character. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In answer to your question. I don’t know. It is for you to try >>>>>>> different mics in different situations so that you learn what you like. >>>>>>> But you have said that you want a big sound stage which means you want >>>>>>> a omnidirectional. When you have experienced the limitations of those >>>>>>> mics you might want to narrow the stage to get less of the unwanted >>>>>>> noise and better subject matter. It is only you who knows what you want >>>>>>> to gain and how much you want to learn against how much you just want >>>>>>> to get the job done. We are not computers so can’t be programmed to >>>>>>> understand we need some experience to work from. You have done a >>>>>>> recording of a dawn chorus and it is up to you. Either to accept that >>>>>>> is how it is or think how can I make the next one different. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> On 12 May 2020, at 23:15, Andy via groups.io >>>>>>>> <http://groups.io/><[email protected] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi again Georgina. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I understand what you are saying about viewing a TV, in terms of >>>>>>>> sound. So I need to consentrate on an dinamic omnidirectional >>>>>>>> microphone, to get a wider picture? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Funny though, for I'm also hoping to buy another set of BSM 9's >>>>>>>> Binaural clip on Microphones from America. These are fantastic >>>>>>>> microphones with a very good bridth of sound, particually when out and >>>>>>>> about in a city with all the traffic and street sounds. Is this type >>>>>>>> of microphone known as an omnidirectional microphone also? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It seems to me that now I may know the type of microphone I need, I >>>>>>>> can forget all about other types of mics. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It also sounds to me that, to record a five piece accustic band, at my >>>>>>>> local pubwho are normall about 15 ft away covering an area length of >>>>>>>> about 12 ft is achievable using such a microphone as would be >>>>>>>> recording bird calls some 25 Ft above my head, to the front, covering >>>>>>>> a distance of about 30 Ft. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So tomorrow I'll look at the Accessable Youtube and search only for >>>>>>>> omnidirectional microphones? There will still be hundreds of varying >>>>>>>> models though. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Need to be very mindful however about what you were saying about >>>>>>>> moisture, particularry when out early in the morning with a heavy >>>>>>>> morning duew. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Very best wishes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Andy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Very best wishes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Andy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Georgina Joyce" <[email protected] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>>> To: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 8:08 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello Andy, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you were able to watch a television would you want to stand back >>>>>>>> and get the whole picture with reasonable detail. Then you want a >>>>>>>> omnidirectional microphone that you can protect from the weather. As >>>>>>>> some condenser mics are easily destroyed by moisture. So on that logic >>>>>>>> you are looking at a dynamic omnidirectional. The quality is dependent >>>>>>>> upon the size of your wallet. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> However, if you want more detailed image then you would get closer to >>>>>>>> the television and just focus upon a smaller area but at greater death >>>>>>>> and detail. The Shotguns would record birds in a small group of trees >>>>>>>> not one bird in a particular tree as others have suggested. The >>>>>>>> cardioid pattern is like imagining the mic has a funnel on the end of >>>>>>>> it. So the further from the mic the wider the spread. But never to its >>>>>>>> sides or back. Thus if you had a noisy road or farm machinery you >>>>>>>> could place the mic so those sources are behind the mic. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is fun to try different microphones and see what harvests your >>>>>>>> fields. If you do use a quiet dynamic microphone you might want to >>>>>>>> consider using a fethead so that you don’t have to crank up those >>>>>>>> pre-amps. They are really terrible on the H6. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 12 May 2020, at 18:33, Andy via groups.io >>>>>>>>> <http://groups.io/><[email protected] >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi all. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Getting more confused as the day goes on. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Road NT1 is a no-no as I normally listen to sounds in sterio - >>>>>>>>> it's just the way I am. Perhaps the NT1 is a fantastic Podcast >>>>>>>>> microphone, but just about everything that I'm keen on recording >>>>>>>>> requires a degree of width, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm totally not interested in recording a single bird, though I can >>>>>>>>> see the attraction if making a collection of birds inone country or >>>>>>>>> area. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Know, for a down chorus I'd be looking for a sterio outdoor >>>>>>>>> microphone with a wide spread. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For example, here is a sample of my own International Dawn Chorus, >>>>>>>>> recorded at my farm on the 3 May, using the Zoom H6 with the clip on >>>>>>>>> right angle microphone. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Can you guess what is wrong with my recording? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.sendspace.com/file/ox1jos >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have now purchased the newer Zoom F8n and wish a XLR sterio >>>>>>>>> Microphone with a very good Dead Cat because my place is about 300 >>>>>>>>> feet above the River Clyde, so is rather windy. - What do they use in >>>>>>>>> Texas??? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hamit suggests that if the Nt1 is not for me, then perhaps I should >>>>>>>>> look at the NT4. So I looked it up in Accessable Youtube . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's about £600 and is a USB microphone, which I think would make it >>>>>>>>> a good podcasting microphone, for a home studio computer. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So I'm at a bit of a loss at the moment and need to give it a lote >>>>>>>>> more consideration. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Perhaps I can find out what I'm looking for using the link: How to >>>>>>>>> Record Bird Songs and Calls - Nature Recording | Audubon, provided >>>>>>>>> earlier today by Gena. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Very best wishes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Andy. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> for ----- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Original Message ----- From: "Georgina Joyce" <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 5:02 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello John, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Fare point, as Andrew had done some research and considered that a >>>>>>>>> shotgun might be the solution I thought he was wanting to focus upon >>>>>>>>> one bird or those birds in a small area. As I pointed out the pickup >>>>>>>>> area is shown as a heart shape. The number of channels does not >>>>>>>>> express the polar pattern. If Andrew wants to record a wide stage >>>>>>>>> then that is an omnidirectional microphone he requires. Not a stereo >>>>>>>>> unless it is omnidirectional. Of course, if andrew wants that >>>>>>>>> binaural affect then again it is something else. Thus there are >>>>>>>>> plenty of options for Andy and many choices and it is for him to >>>>>>>>> decide what the end result is that he requires. i.e. What size stage >>>>>>>>> does Andy want? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There is a youtube reviewer of microphones who dances around the >>>>>>>>> microphones so you can hear the extent of the pattern. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> On 12 May 2020, at 15:43, John Gurd via groups.io >>>>>>>>>> <http://groups.io/><[email protected] >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I had a look at the link. Most bird watchers want to focus-record an >>>>>>>>>> individual bird song sometimes out of many background songs. A dawn >>>>>>>>>> Chorus is all the birds in the area - not just a single bird. As >>>>>>>>>> Hamit suggests a stereo mike might be more likely to do this >>>>>>>>>> successfully. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> PS: last time I heard Andy was living in rural Scotland, so maybe >>>>>>>>>> not a big garden, but a lot of habitat. I know birds are >>>>>>>>>> territorial, but they tend to sing from adjoining gardens to, and >>>>>>>>>> I'm sure Andy isn't so possessive he only wants the birds singing in >>>>>>>>>> just his garden alone. You'll find a dawn chorus is just as big >>>>>>>>>> weather heard from a small garden or an estate for that very reason. >>>>>>>>>> 😉 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of >>>>>>>>>> Georgina Joyce >>>>>>>>>> Sent: 12 May 2020 14:41 >>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello John, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> They don’t cut out sharply it’s usually shown as a heart shape >>>>>>>>>> tapering down to the point. Obviously, Andy has done some research >>>>>>>>>> and his post caused me to do so as I use a shotgun in the booth. >>>>>>>>>> Andy did not want ambient sound. He wanted to record bird song from >>>>>>>>>> his garden. Unless he lives in a huge estate it is not going to be >>>>>>>>>> that wide of a field. I found that bird watchers use a shotgun mic >>>>>>>>>> although this is with a camera. Even professional sound recordist >>>>>>>>>> uses a shotgun. See this: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.audubon.org/news/a-beginners-guide-recording-bird-vocalizations >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 12 May 2020, at 14:20, John Gurd via groups.io >>>>>>>>>>> <http://groups.io/><[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From what I've read a shot-gun mike is so directional that even >>>>>>>>>>> being off-target a little will result in poor quality sound. I >>>>>>>>>>> doubt it would be the best for ambient recordings. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of >>>>>>>>>>> Georgina Joyce >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 11 May 2020 14:16 >>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello Andy, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It is down to you and how much you want to spend. I follow the >>>>>>>>>>> Booth Junky who uses a shotgun microphone a lot. He uses the >>>>>>>>>>> Sennheiser MKH-416. I haven’t been able to afford one of those but >>>>>>>>>>> I do have the MKH-166 which I purchased used from eBay. I >>>>>>>>>>> absolutely love it and is my mic of choice. I think that would >>>>>>>>>>> really do the job. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 11 May 2020, at 13:25, Andy via groups.io >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://groups.io/><[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones I >>>>>>>>>>>> have are the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't have >>>>>>>>>>>> a clue as to which microphone , or best type, to buy and where to >>>>>>>>>>>> buy it. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large >>>>>>>>>>>> Dead-Cat windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the >>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate XLR plugs. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone please give me some advice. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up. I think I've changed an inportant >>>>>>>>>>>> option within the menues. I tried recording bird calls and the >>>>>>>>>>>> recording was extremely poor. Is there perhaps a function within >>>>>>>>>>>> the H6 that Re-sets the device back to factory settings. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise pelution >>>>>>>>>>>> silence to get very nice recordings. If so I'd love to here some >>>>>>>>>>>> samples. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Andy Logue from Scotland. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Gena >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP >>>>>>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259 >>>>>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS >>>>>>>>>>> 73 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Gena >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP >>>>>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259 >>>>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS >>>>>>>>>> 73 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gena >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP >>>>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259 >>>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS >>>>>>>>> 73 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gena >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP >>>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259 >>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS >>>>>>>> 73 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gena >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Call: M0EBP >>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259 >>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS >>>>>>> 73 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Gena >>>>> >>>>> Call: M0EBP >>>>> DMR ID: 2346259 >>>>> Loc: IO83PS >>>>> 73 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Casey >> >> > > > Gena Call: M0EBP DMR ID: 2346259 Loc: IO83PS 73 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. 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