Hello Andy, Why would you need to buy so many pairs? Do they break easily?
Thanks, > On 13 May 2020, at 22:37, Andy via groups.io > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Hamit and list. > > Please dont underestimate the Binaural sound of street recording. > > I've already purchased 3 sets of BSM 9 Binaural microphones from America and > as far as I'm concerned the are the bestBinaural microphones on the market > today. > . > > I'm hoping to purchase a 4th pair but this time, I'm hoping to also purchase > an XLR adaptore that will convert my mini jack to an XLR along with a small > power pack to plug directly into my Zoom F8n! > > So please don't underestimate these wonderful microphones. > > Here is a very good example of what I'm talking about. > > Earlier today I wrote a mest to Georgena as follows: > > Hi again Georgina. > > You would not probabally believe this Georgena, unless you put your trust in > me totally. > > About 15 years ago, when I still held some residual vision, I made a > podcast called Andy's farm. > > This was posted to Blind Cool Tec and the feedback I got from all over > America was absolutely fantastic and very encouraging. > > Sadly BCT no longer exscists and I'd love this group to try and do something > the same, with podcasts along with sight seeing tours etc. Unfortunately > this is yet only another dream! > > I was a recently retired visual impairment manager and Pauline was a mental > health nurse. > > It's a lovely podcast when my wife and i were in our middle 40's. > > Pauline and I live in a farm, that is, what is now communly know here in > Scotland as a Small Holding. > > I had very recently retired as a visual impairment manager with my local > authority and Pauline was a mental health nurse. > > Georgina. This place called Meikle Aiden farm was paid outright and Pauline > and I lived a very special dream. > > We have loads of land with set aside just for the wiled burds, rabits and > hedhogs and it was just glorious and filled with love and happyness and we > had loads of pets and friends from the wildside community, like Guess, > Chickens, ducks, Dogs and Cats. It was beutiful. > . > > Pauline was hoping to wright a book about our love and struggle we shared > hoping that some people may be interested in her book. > > Because of her commitments that still eccist , she sadellly did not get > around to starting this. > > So I made a podcast called Andy's Farm and I still listen to it today and > feel very sad for all our dogs and cats that have past on since. > > The remarkable thing about this Georgina. is that my podcaste was recorded > using a basic Olympus DM 50 along with a pair of Bsm Binauaral microphones > series 9 from America. > > The quality of the sound in the podcaste i think is remarkable, giving the > fact that all of my recording equitment cost little more than £100. > > It makes me wonder why have I now have a Zoom F8n and why I'm ready to spend > hundreds of pounds on specialised microphones. > > So I'm suggesting start by going cheep as I did, learn about sound recording > and move up only when You'r sure there is an improvement there for you. > > Regarding andy's farm, you can download my old podcaste from the following > site: > > Sendspace. > > https://www.sendspace.com/file/o30z3i > > Please, please consider this podcast and let me know if you think a £100 > total bill for the equipment was worthwhile . > > Very best wishes. > > Andy. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:17 PM > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom > > >> Ah well then as far as binaural goes Larry from APH did it with in ear mics. >> So these you put in your ear like earpods. They use your ear canal to help >> shape the sound. He went to work at APH with them and an IRiver recorder. I >> like the effect, but I don't like how binaural mics as they are little mini >> me things that go in your ear have an ear bud quality to them. They don't >> sound as good as an actual mic you hold in your hand. >> >> On 5/13/2020 4:59 PM, John Gurd via groups.io wrote: >>> I love binaural recordings. Although, as a wee flight of fancy, for that >>> authentic effect you'd want a plastic head to clip them to, or maybe, a >>> head brace to clip them to your own head to be fully immersive as you walk >>> down the street. Lol. >>> >>> Seriously though, I wonder what the most practical way would be to port >>> these things as a blind pedestrian making a mobile recording in a city >>> street? I'd love to try it. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce >>> Sent: 13 May 2020 19:46 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Not sure if it is these Andy referred to. I would not consider them as >>> being expensive. >>> >>> https://www.microphonemadness.com/mm-bsm-9-binaural-stereo-microphones-omni-directional-with-shure-premium-holding-clips.html >>> >>> Apologies, Andy, I didn’t answer your question but as the link suggests you >>> are right in that they are omnidirectional. I ham going to see if I can add >>> them to my collection. They would be fun. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>>> On 13 May 2020, at 19:22, Anders Holmberg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi! >>>> What are these bsm 9 mics? >>>> I guess they’re really expensive in price. >>>> /A >>>> >>>>> 13 maj 2020 kl. 00:51 skrev Georgina Joyce <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>: >>>>> >>>>> Hello Andy, >>>>> >>>>> The better way and professional way is to mic up each member of the band >>>>> with a mic that has the dynamic range of that sound source. So a mic for >>>>> a guitarist is different to that for a vocalist. If the band wanted you >>>>> to make a CD for them this is what you need to do. These mics would be >>>>> cardioid polar pattern. >>>>> >>>>> Right at the other end you have a covert recording where you would have a >>>>> smart phone or other recording device in your pocket and wear a tie pin >>>>> omnidirectional microphone. Such a recording will not include the close >>>>> up details as the above professional recording. >>>>> >>>>> Somewhere in the middle of those two extremes is where in the real every >>>>> day world that we live in. The disadvantage of the omnidirectional is >>>>> that it picks up everything, so in the pub situation someone puts a glass >>>>> down on the table and it is now a part of the music. I think every pub >>>>> has a squeaky door, so when someone goes to the toilet, those sounds >>>>> become a part of the music. It is not until we start recording we realise >>>>> how much our mind filters out. If we want to hear the band we >>>>> unconsciously filter out the noise made by the others in the audience. >>>>> But the recorder does not filter this out, if the mic hears it then it is >>>>> heard on the recording. Which actually can sound better than a studio >>>>> recording because it has character. >>>>> >>>>> In answer to your question. I don’t know. It is for you to try different >>>>> mics in different situations so that you learn what you like. But you >>>>> have said that you want a big sound stage which means you want a >>>>> omnidirectional. When you have experienced the limitations of those mics >>>>> you might want to narrow the stage to get less of the unwanted noise and >>>>> better subject matter. It is only you who knows what you want to gain and >>>>> how much you want to learn against how much you just want to get the job >>>>> done. We are not computers so can’t be programmed to understand we need >>>>> some experience to work from. You have done a recording of a dawn chorus >>>>> and it is up to you. Either to accept that is how it is or think how can >>>>> I make the next one different. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>>> On 12 May 2020, at 23:15, Andy via groups.io >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi again Georgina. >>>>>> >>>>>> I understand what you are saying about viewing a TV, in terms of sound. >>>>>> So I need to consentrate on an dinamic omnidirectional microphone, to >>>>>> get a wider picture? >>>>>> >>>>>> Funny though, for I'm also hoping to buy another set of BSM 9's >>>>>> Binaural clip on Microphones from America. These are fantastic >>>>>> microphones with a very good bridth of sound, particually when out and >>>>>> about in a city with all the traffic and street sounds. Is this type of >>>>>> microphone known as an omnidirectional microphone also? >>>>>> >>>>>> It seems to me that now I may know the type of microphone I need, I can >>>>>> forget all about other types of mics. >>>>>> >>>>>> It also sounds to me that, to record a five piece accustic band, at my >>>>>> local pubwho are normall about 15 ft away covering an area length of >>>>>> about 12 ft is achievable using such a microphone as would be recording >>>>>> bird calls some 25 Ft above my head, to the front, covering a distance >>>>>> of about 30 Ft. >>>>>> >>>>>> So tomorrow I'll look at the Accessable Youtube and search only for >>>>>> omnidirectional microphones? There will still be hundreds of varying >>>>>> models though. >>>>>> >>>>>> Need to be very mindful however about what you were saying about >>>>>> moisture, particularry when out early in the morning with a heavy >>>>>> morning duew. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Very best wishes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Andy. >>>>>> >>>>>> Very best wishes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Andy. >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Georgina Joyce" <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 8:08 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello Andy, >>>>>> >>>>>> If you were able to watch a television would you want to stand back and >>>>>> get the whole picture with reasonable detail. Then you want a >>>>>> omnidirectional microphone that you can protect from the weather. As >>>>>> some condenser mics are easily destroyed by moisture. So on that logic >>>>>> you are looking at a dynamic omnidirectional. The quality is dependent >>>>>> upon the size of your wallet. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, if you want more detailed image then you would get closer to >>>>>> the television and just focus upon a smaller area but at greater death >>>>>> and detail. The Shotguns would record birds in a small group of trees >>>>>> not one bird in a particular tree as others have suggested. The cardioid >>>>>> pattern is like imagining the mic has a funnel on the end of it. So the >>>>>> further from the mic the wider the spread. But never to its sides or >>>>>> back. Thus if you had a noisy road or farm machinery you could place the >>>>>> mic so those sources are behind the mic. >>>>>> >>>>>> It is fun to try different microphones and see what harvests your >>>>>> fields. If you do use a quiet dynamic microphone you might want to >>>>>> consider using a fethead so that you don’t have to crank up those >>>>>> pre-amps. They are really terrible on the H6. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12 May 2020, at 18:33, Andy via groups.io >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Getting more confused as the day goes on. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Road NT1 is a no-no as I normally listen to sounds in sterio - it's >>>>>>> just the way I am. Perhaps the NT1 is a fantastic Podcast microphone, >>>>>>> but just about everything that I'm keen on recording requires a degree >>>>>>> of width, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm totally not interested in recording a single bird, though I can see >>>>>>> the attraction if making a collection of birds inone country or area. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Know, for a down chorus I'd be looking for a sterio outdoor microphone >>>>>>> with a wide spread. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For example, here is a sample of my own International Dawn Chorus, >>>>>>> recorded at my farm on the 3 May, using the Zoom H6 with the clip on >>>>>>> right angle microphone. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can you guess what is wrong with my recording? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.sendspace.com/file/ox1jos >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have now purchased the newer Zoom F8n and wish a XLR sterio >>>>>>> Microphone with a very good Dead Cat because my place is about 300 feet >>>>>>> above the River Clyde, so is rather windy. - What do they use in >>>>>>> Texas??? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hamit suggests that if the Nt1 is not for me, then perhaps I should >>>>>>> look at the NT4. So I looked it up in Accessable Youtube . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's about £600 and is a USB microphone, which I think would make it a >>>>>>> good podcasting microphone, for a home studio computer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So I'm at a bit of a loss at the moment and need to give it a lote more >>>>>>> consideration. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Perhaps I can find out what I'm looking for using the link: How to >>>>>>> Record Bird Songs and Calls - Nature Recording | Audubon, provided >>>>>>> earlier today by Gena. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Very best wishes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Andy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> for ----- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Original Message ----- From: "Georgina Joyce" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 5:02 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello John, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fare point, as Andrew had done some research and considered that a >>>>>>> shotgun might be the solution I thought he was wanting to focus upon >>>>>>> one bird or those birds in a small area. As I pointed out the pickup >>>>>>> area is shown as a heart shape. The number of channels does not express >>>>>>> the polar pattern. If Andrew wants to record a wide stage then that is >>>>>>> an omnidirectional microphone he requires. Not a stereo unless it is >>>>>>> omnidirectional. Of course, if andrew wants that binaural affect then >>>>>>> again it is something else. Thus there are plenty of options for Andy >>>>>>> and many choices and it is for him to decide what the end result is >>>>>>> that he requires. i.e. What size stage does Andy want? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is a youtube reviewer of microphones who dances around the >>>>>>> microphones so you can hear the extent of the pattern. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> On 12 May 2020, at 15:43, John Gurd via groups.io >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I had a look at the link. Most bird watchers want to focus-record an >>>>>>>> individual bird song sometimes out of many background songs. A dawn >>>>>>>> Chorus is all the birds in the area - not just a single bird. As Hamit >>>>>>>> suggests a stereo mike might be more likely to do this successfully. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PS: last time I heard Andy was living in rural Scotland, so maybe not >>>>>>>> a big garden, but a lot of habitat. I know birds are territorial, but >>>>>>>> they tend to sing from adjoining gardens to, and I'm sure Andy isn't >>>>>>>> so possessive he only wants the birds singing in just his garden >>>>>>>> alone. You'll find a dawn chorus is just as big weather heard from a >>>>>>>> small garden or an estate for that very reason. 😉 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Georgina >>>>>>>> Joyce >>>>>>>> Sent: 12 May 2020 14:41 >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello John, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They don’t cut out sharply it’s usually shown as a heart shape >>>>>>>> tapering down to the point. Obviously, Andy has done some research and >>>>>>>> his post caused me to do so as I use a shotgun in the booth. Andy did >>>>>>>> not want ambient sound. He wanted to record bird song from his garden. >>>>>>>> Unless he lives in a huge estate it is not going to be that wide of a >>>>>>>> field. I found that bird watchers use a shotgun mic although this is >>>>>>>> with a camera. Even professional sound recordist uses a shotgun. See >>>>>>>> this: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.audubon.org/news/a-beginners-guide-recording-bird-vocalizations >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 12 May 2020, at 14:20, John Gurd via groups.io >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From what I've read a shot-gun mike is so directional that even being >>>>>>>>> off-target a little will result in poor quality sound. I doubt it >>>>>>>>> would be the best for ambient recordings. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Georgina >>>>>>>>> Joyce >>>>>>>>> Sent: 11 May 2020 14:16 >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello Andy, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It is down to you and how much you want to spend. I follow the Booth >>>>>>>>> Junky who uses a shotgun microphone a lot. He uses the Sennheiser >>>>>>>>> MKH-416. I haven’t been able to afford one of those but I do have the >>>>>>>>> MKH-166 which I purchased used from eBay. I absolutely love it and is >>>>>>>>> my mic of choice. I think that would really do the job. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 11 May 2020, at 13:25, Andy via groups.io >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi all. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones I >>>>>>>>>> have are the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't have a >>>>>>>>>> clue as to which microphone , or best type, to buy and where to buy >>>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large >>>>>>>>>> Dead-Cat windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the >>>>>>>>>> appropriate XLR plugs. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Can anyone please give me some advice. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up. I think I've changed an inportant >>>>>>>>>> option within the menues. I tried recording bird calls and the >>>>>>>>>> recording was extremely poor. Is there perhaps a function within >>>>>>>>>> the H6 that Re-sets the device back to factory settings. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise pelution >>>>>>>>>> silence to get very nice recordings. If so I'd love to here some >>>>>>>>>> samples. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Andy Logue from Scotland. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gena >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP >>>>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259 >>>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS >>>>>>>>> 73 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gena >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP >>>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259 >>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS >>>>>>>> 73 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gena >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Call: M0EBP >>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259 >>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS >>>>>>> 73 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Gena >>>>>> >>>>>> Call: M0EBP >>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259 >>>>>> Loc: IO83PS >>>>>> 73 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Gena >>>>> >>>>> Call: M0EBP >>>>> DMR ID: 2346259 >>>>> Loc: IO83PS >>>>> 73 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Gena >>> >>> Call: M0EBP >>> DMR ID: 2346259 >>> Loc: IO83PS >>> 73 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > > Gena Call: M0EBP DMR ID: 2346259 Loc: IO83PS 73 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. 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