Hello Andy,

When you ask to guess, what are you asking? What is it you don’t like about it?

Regards,

> On 12 May 2020, at 18:33, Andy via groups.io 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> 
> Getting more confused as the day goes on.
> 
> The Road NT1 is a no-no as I normally listen to sounds in sterio - it's just 
> the way I am.  Perhaps the NT1 is a fantastic Podcast microphone, but just 
> about everything that I'm keen on recording requires a degree of width,
> 
> I'm totally not interested in recording a single bird, though I can see the 
> attraction if making a collection  of birds inone country or area.
> 
> Know, for a down chorus I'd be looking for a sterio outdoor microphone with a 
> wide spread.
> 
> For example, here is a sample of my own International Dawn Chorus, recorded 
> at my farm on the 3 May, using the Zoom H6 with the clip on right angle 
> microphone.
> 
> 
> Can you guess what is wrong with my  recording?
> 
> https://www.sendspace.com/file/ox1jos
> 
> I have now purchased the newer Zoom F8n and wish a XLR sterio Microphone with 
> a very good Dead Cat because my place is about 300 feet above the River 
> Clyde, so is rather windy.  -  What do they use in Texas???
> 
> Hamit suggests that if the Nt1 is not for me, then perhaps  I should look at 
> the NT4.  So I looked it up in Accessable Youtube .
> 
> It's about £600 and is a USB microphone, which I think would make it a good 
> podcasting microphone, for a  home studio computer.
> 
> So I'm at a bit of a loss at the moment and need to give it a lote more 
> consideration.
> 
> Perhaps I can find out what I'm looking for using the link: How to Record 
> Bird Songs and Calls - Nature Recording | Audubon, provided earlier today by 
> Gena.
> 
> 
> 
> Very best wishes.
> 
> Andy.
> 
> 
> 
> for ----- 
> 
> 
> 
> Original Message ----- From: "Georgina Joyce" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 5:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom
> 
> 
> Hello John,
> 
> Fare point, as Andrew had done some research and considered that a shotgun 
> might be the solution I thought he was wanting to focus upon one bird or 
> those birds in a small area. As I pointed out the pickup area is shown as a 
> heart shape. The number of channels does not express the polar pattern. If 
> Andrew wants to record a wide stage then that is an omnidirectional 
> microphone he requires. Not a stereo unless it is omnidirectional. Of course, 
> if andrew wants that binaural affect then again it is something else. Thus 
> there are plenty of options for Andy and many choices and it is for him to 
> decide what the end result is that he requires. i.e. What size stage does 
> Andy want?
> 
> There is a youtube reviewer of microphones who dances around the microphones 
> so you can hear the extent of the pattern.
> 
> Regards,
>> On 12 May 2020, at 15:43, John Gurd via groups.io 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I had a look at the link. Most bird watchers want to focus-record an 
>> individual bird song  sometimes out of many background songs. A dawn Chorus 
>> is all the birds in the area - not just a single bird. As Hamit suggests a 
>> stereo mike might be more likely to do this successfully.
>> 
>> PS: last time I heard Andy was living in rural Scotland, so maybe not a big 
>> garden, but a lot of habitat. I know birds are territorial, but they tend to 
>> sing from adjoining gardens to, and I'm sure Andy isn't so possessive he 
>> only wants the birds singing in just his garden alone. You'll find a dawn 
>> chorus is just as big weather heard from a small garden or an estate for 
>> that very reason. 😉
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
>> Sent: 12 May 2020 14:41
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom
>> 
>> Hello John,
>> 
>> They don’t cut out sharply it’s usually shown as a heart shape tapering down 
>> to the point. Obviously, Andy has done some research and his post caused me 
>> to do so as I use a shotgun in the booth. Andy did not want ambient sound. 
>> He wanted to record bird song from his garden. Unless he lives in a huge 
>> estate it is not going to be that wide of a field. I found that bird 
>> watchers use a shotgun mic although this is with a camera. Even professional 
>> sound recordist uses a shotgun. See this:
>> 
>> https://www.audubon.org/news/a-beginners-guide-recording-bird-vocalizations
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12 May 2020, at 14:20, John Gurd via groups.io 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> From what I've read a shot-gun mike is so directional that even being 
>>> off-target a little will result in poor quality sound. I doubt it would be 
>>> the best for ambient recordings.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
>>> Sent: 11 May 2020 14:16
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom
>>> 
>>> Hello Andy,
>>> 
>>> It is down to you and how much you want to spend. I follow the Booth Junky 
>>> who uses a shotgun microphone a lot. He uses the Sennheiser MKH-416. I 
>>> haven’t been able to afford one of those but I do have the MKH-166 which I 
>>> purchased used from eBay. I absolutely love it and is my mic of choice. I 
>>> think that would really do the job.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 11 May 2020, at 13:25, Andy via groups.io 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all.
>>>> 
>>>> I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones I have are 
>>>> the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't have a clue 
>>>> as to which microphone , or best type, to buy and where to buy it.
>>>> 
>>>> I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large Dead-Cat 
>>>> windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the appropriate XLR 
>>>> plugs.
>>>> 
>>>> Can anyone please give me some advice.
>>>> 
>>>> Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up.  I think I've changed an inportant option 
>>>> within the menues.  I tried recording bird calls and the recording was 
>>>> extremely poor.  Is there perhaps a function within the H6 that Re-sets 
>>>> the device back to factory settings.
>>>> 
>>>> I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise pelution silence 
>>>> to get very nice recordings.  If so I'd love to here some samples.
>>>> 
>>>> Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves.
>>>> 
>>>> Andy Logue from Scotland.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> Call: M0EBP
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> Gena
> 
> Call: M0EBP
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> 

Gena

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