printers don't usually receive much email On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 12:01 AM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]> wrote:
> ---------------------- > So theres no mail component like sendmail > Spf is a dns entry, i use rhem for relays alot > Open relays are great with ACLs, removes the authentiaction failure > without notification point of failure > -------------------------- > > I can sit here and say ... Yes you are correct in all of the above.. > > or I can be technically anal and say.... > > sendmail is a full fledged mail server application, it would be degrading > and wrong to call it a 'component'. > SPF is a dns entry, I use them for relays a lot.....<-----SPF is a > mechanism which allows the sender to define a valid mail sending source to > the receiving mail server.. how u are using it is a subset of the > mechanism, but you are forgetting that the receiving mail server has a > great amount of 'configuration setting leeway' as to how to use the > information provided in the SPF record. > > Open relays are great with ACLs,>>>>> Ok > >>>removes the authentiaction failure without notification point of > failure >>>> ????? not sure what you are saying.. but hopefully you > realize that 'authentication' is only used for mail 'relay' function.... > and not needed for 'receiving mail' .... > > :) > > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518> > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: > [email protected] > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Steve Jones" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Sunday, May 14, 2017 12:24:03 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] sending mail from mikrotik without smtp server > > So theres no mail component like sendmail > Spf is a dns entry, i use rhem for relays alot > Open relays are great with ACLs, removes the authentiaction failure > without notification point of failure > > On May 13, 2017 8:54 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Short answer to your question is no.. > > Long answer..... MT has a small mail sender "client" portion of software, > i.e. similar to the mail sender client that is on your desktop computer > The functionality you are asking for is a Mail Server (Receiver) side > functionality. The SPF is not a sender side control.. but a receiver side > validation of an authorized sender. > SFP record vs going to spam, are two different functions, not related, but > used together to control spam. > > if you setup the MT to send mail to the end mail server (i.e. the mail > server that has the email mail box on it) then YOU DON"T NEED > Authentication credentials. > (Auth credentials are only needed for mail relay... not receiving mail) > > open mail relays are a bad thing..... (unless you have them firewall > protected by IP address range, then the risk is reduced ). > > > Regards > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518> > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: > [email protected] > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Steve Jones" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Saturday, May 13, 2017 7:39:52 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] sending mail from mikrotik without smtp server > > I guess that wasnt all that clear, is mikrotik capable of acting as a mail > facility, like sendmail, the spf record allows its public facing ip to send > on behalf of the domain without going to spam. Im never a fan of > credentialling in devices when i can avoid it because a credential change > inevitably results in stranded alerts. Inside our active directory domains > i always set up an open smtp relay with an acl to avoid credentials on > devices that do mail alerts or printers that email > > On May 12, 2017 3:23 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I think you are getting confused with some aspect of how the Mail gets >> sent (SMTP Process). >> >> in MT lingo... smtp server = it can be your mail server (the one that >> has the receiving email account) which can also be a 'Relay' server if it >> does not have the receiving email account and it is supposed to forward the >> mail to the end mail server in the chain. >> >> SPF records are used by the receiving mail server to determine validity >> of email vs spam etc... >> >> If you are asking about why you have to configure Authentication ? the >> answer is you don't ... if the mailserver listed in the smtp server is the >> final receiving mail server. >> >> Regards. >> >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> Miami, FL 33155 >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518> >> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: >> [email protected] >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Steve Jones" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Friday, May 12, 2017 4:15:25 PM >> *Subject: *[AFMUG] sending mail from mikrotik without smtp server >> >> Is there a way to get the mikrotik to just send emails without having to >> configure an smtp server/relay? I dont directly have issue with setting up >> authentication to a mail relay, it just seems unneccessary if I have good >> SPF >> >> > >
