I'm sure that works but I'm not going to build an OSPF /30 router-to-router
1 to 10GbE backbone link that looks like:

router -> switch -> fiber riser to roof -> radio -> air -> radio -> fiber
riser to roof -> switch -> router

introduce a switch in the path between two routers just because?


On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 9:12 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:

> You don't do it on a router, you bond it with a switch and do the
> layer 4 hashing on it's ASIC, then uplink it via SFP+.to your router.
>
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I am not aware of any notable backbone-ready router platform (something
> that
> > speaks BGP+OSPF+MPLS, takes full tables and can carry multiple VRFs) that
> > does layer-4 hashing in ASICs/hardware...   Routers are not intended to
> be
> > load balancers.
> >
> > It's not a microwave problem, the same issue is seen if you portchannel
> two
> > 1Gbps fiber connections between routers.
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> That's not exactly true, it depends on the hashing method. If your
> >> equipment can do Layer 4 hashing, then you absolutely can maximize the
> >> aggregate throughput via single stream.
> >>
> >> Sadly, LAG/LACP as a whole like this sucks terribly for
> >> wireless/microwave.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> > Looking at the 2200FX it has regular SFP ports, so at 2Gbps (500 MHz
> >> > channel
> >> > 32QAM?) FDD, you can only achieve 2Gbps by doing an 802.3ad between
> two
> >> > routers. In which case no single customer data stream will exeed
> 1Gbps.
> >> > Not
> >> > quite the same thing as having a radio with a SFP+ 10GbE interface.
> >> >
> >> > That said it will probably be less costly than the equivalent options
> >> > from
> >> > Bridgewave, E-Band or perhaps SIAE.
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Peter Kranz <[email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Siklu has both a high power and low power 2Gbps radio now. The high
> >> >> power
> >> >> unit is not on their website but due next month and its really much
> >> >> more
> >> >> than the cheap one honestly.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Peter Kranz
> >> >> www.UnwiredLtd.com
> >> >> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
> >> >> Mobile: 510-207-0000
> >> >> [email protected]
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 1:55 PM
> >> >> To: [email protected]
> >> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Without violating any manufacturer's NDA, this is the tip of an
> >> >> iceberg,
> >> >> the Russians just happen to be publishing info a tiny bit earlier
> than
> >> >> the
> >> >> other 80 GHz radio manufacturers. There are 10GbE 256QAM FDD radios
> in
> >> >> development and field testing from all of the significant players in
> >> >> the
> >> >> industry.
> >> >>
> >> >> I would expect the 'new' 5Gbps to 10Gbps radios to ship in the US at
> a
> >> >> price point under $20k per link including antennas, which will occupy
> >> >> the
> >> >> price tier previously occupied by the 1Gbps high-powered 80 GHz stuff
> >> >> that
> >> >> began shipping 3.5 to 4 years ago. Then you have the lower powered
> less
> >> >> expensive 80 GHz stuff like Siklu which has a max Tx power of +8 or
> +10
> >> >> and
> >> >> will come down further from its already-low price under $10k/link.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Putting 2 and 2 together, from a FB post, it looks like they're 20k
> GBP
> >> >> per link. That sounds simply awesome if they are.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> -----
> >> >> Mike Hammett
> >> >> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> >> >>
> >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange
> >> >>
> >> >> The Brothers WISP
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ________________________________
> >> >>
> >> >> From: "Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]>
> >> >> To: [email protected]
> >> >> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 5:42:25 PM
> >> >> Subject: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.elva-1.com/news_events/a40107
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.elva-1.com/products/a40106
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.elva-1.com/data/files/Datasheets/2016_02_24_PPC-10G.pdf
> >> >>
> >> >> 2000 MHz wide channel and 256QAM for 10 Gbps in the FDD 71-86 GHz
> >> >> bands.
> >> >> Question is...  What's the Rx level needed for that, and how quickly
> >> >> does it
> >> >> drop off with rain?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
>

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