Uh, the reader operates the striker/maglock and gets input from the door position sensor?
On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Nate Burke <[email protected]> wrote: > There is no controller, it stores everything in the reader. The Software is > only used for configuration, or reading the access logs off the reader. > > On 3/28/2016 9:08 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >> >> What about the door controller? >> >> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 9:04 PM, Nate Burke <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I contacted suprema, and they directed me to a local reseller. The >>> Reseller >>> had no problem selling me just the xpass no questions ask. I think they >>> were >>> about $350. Very easy to install and setup. >>> >>> On 3/28/2016 8:59 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >>>> >>>> Suprema looks pretty good.. >>>> >>>> >>>> https://www.supremainc.com/en/AccessControl-TimeandAttendance/Platform/BioStar-2-Mobile >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Sterling Jacobson >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Your pretty much back to the windows database solution at this point. >>>>> >>>>> You can do this with the cheap Chinese boards in aggregate with their >>>>> software. >>>>> >>>>> It’s not pretty, but it does what you want, multiple controllers, >>>>> software >>>>> with users and keys and time/scheduler etc. >>>>> >>>>> All for a few hundred bucks per four doors using standard keypads and >>>>> locks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Otherwise, let us know if you find anything cool! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Would be nice to get a better turnkey solution that wasn’t based on >>>>> 90’s >>>>> >>>>> interface and DB paradigm. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds >>>>> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 7:51 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] door access control >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> My access solution needs to have different access per user / door / >>>>> time >>>>> via >>>>> pin and keyfob, so can't really get something too simple due to various >>>>> needs, contractors, etc. :/ >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 28, 2016 8:47 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You will all laugh but I just put in a wink and schlage locks. Not >>>>> exactly >>>>> a real security system since there is no keypad you can arm or disarm. >>>>> You >>>>> can only do that through the app. One of my people doesn't have a new >>>>> enough >>>>> smartphone for the app. It allows you to use robots which are simple if >>>>> then >>>>> logic. >>>>> I know it isn't difficult enough for many of you but it is cheap, easy, >>>>> and >>>>> pretty. >>>>> A nice keypad would be a good pi project to round it out though. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016, 7:32 PM Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You have a door strike. The magnetic systems can be no or nc. If you >>>>> loopback 12v from the keypad back to the doorcontroller, you can often >>>>> trigger a fault state that releases power to the maglock. ;) >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 28, 2016 7:11 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I’m pretty sure you could also just smash the glass and walk in too J >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> But the door strike on mine does go back to the controller I believe, >>>>> so >>>>> you >>>>> couldn’t just jimmy the keypad wiring. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Not really a high security scenario since my idea was to theoretically >>>>> be >>>>> able to pay $5 and enter (then walk out with anything you like I >>>>> guess). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds >>>>> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 6:07 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] door access control >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Also, pretty sure the one you have... If I remember right, I could rip >>>>> the >>>>> keypad off and touch brown to red to open the door based on the wiring >>>>> diagram. >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 28, 2016 7:03 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I've had the same problem. >>>>> >>>>> The local alarm company wanted like $3-4k for a two door install, lol! >>>>> >>>>> Here is what I did so far: >>>>> >>>>> I bought a controller board off of eBay that does the standard protocol >>>>> used >>>>> by the strike. >>>>> I bought the strike off ebay too. >>>>> I bought a keypad controller off eBay. >>>>> The controller came with a small locking box, and has room for a >>>>> battery >>>>> backup and can use PoE. >>>>> >>>>> The whole thing cost less than $500 I think. >>>>> >>>>> I used Ethernet to connect the box to my switch and to the strike and >>>>> keypad. >>>>> >>>>> The controller has a simple web interface you log on to and then >>>>> add/remove >>>>> door codes. >>>>> >>>>> I did have to interpret some Chinese manuals to figure out the pinouts >>>>> for >>>>> everything, but it works as expected. >>>>> >>>>> What I have left to do is map the private IP of the controller to a >>>>> public >>>>> IP and firewall it. >>>>> >>>>> And then I wanted to write a service/web api to it so I could use a up >>>>> to >>>>> date 'normal' API access to add/remove door codes. >>>>> >>>>> Let me know if you want more details. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds >>>>> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 4:53 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] door access control >>>>> >>>>> I'm dying here. Every single system I can find is shit or costs an arm >>>>> and a >>>>> leg, to the point where I'm considering starting a company to make a >>>>> better >>>>> system. I just need an embedded, web based, IP access control system. >>>>> It >>>>> needs to be able to control the individual door access controllers to >>>>> electronic striker or maglock to the keypad. POE here is best. If it >>>>> requires software running on a windows PC then I don't want anything to >>>>> do >>>>> with it, even for those of you who are like "put it in a vm"... no. >>>>> Those >>>>> resources are reserved for properly functioning operation systems (and >>>>> LXC >>>>> containers!). >>>>> >>>>> I've got 3 doors at one location, then 2 more doors at 2 other >>>>> locations. >>>>> >>>>> If it has a mobile app, that's even better. >>>>> >>>>> I've installed a couple of HID Global and DoorKing systems in the past >>>>> and >>>>> nothing about this is hard, but the chinese systems are only made for a >>>>> single location. >>>>> >>>>> Any suggestions? >>> >>> >
