Yeah, this looks nice.

It's a better turnkey solution, if the strike and something like the BioLite 
Net don't cost a fortune.

I too need the API, so that would be nice to convert my setup to them (keeping 
the door strike since that was a major PITA to install).



-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 8:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] door access control

What about the door controller?

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 9:04 PM, Nate Burke <[email protected]> wrote:
> I contacted suprema, and they directed me to a local reseller.  The 
> Reseller had no problem selling me just the xpass no questions ask. I 
> think they were about $350.  Very easy to install and setup.
>
> On 3/28/2016 8:59 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>
>> Suprema looks pretty good..
>>
>> https://www.supremainc.com/en/AccessControl-TimeandAttendance/Platfor
>> m/BioStar-2-Mobile
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
>> <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Your pretty much back to the windows database solution at this point.
>>>
>>> You can do this with the cheap Chinese boards in aggregate with 
>>> their software.
>>>
>>> It’s not pretty, but it does what you want, multiple controllers, 
>>> software with users and keys and time/scheduler etc.
>>>
>>> All for a few hundred bucks per four doors using standard keypads 
>>> and locks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Otherwise, let us know if you find anything cool!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Would be nice to get a better turnkey solution that wasn’t based on 
>>> 90’s interface and DB paradigm.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
>>> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 7:51 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] door access control
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My access solution needs to have different access per user / door / 
>>> time via pin and keyfob, so can't really get something too simple 
>>> due to various needs, contractors, etc. :/
>>>
>>> On Mar 28, 2016 8:47 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> You will all laugh but I just put in a wink and schlage locks.  Not 
>>> exactly a real security system since there is no keypad you can arm 
>>> or disarm.
>>> You
>>> can only do that through the app. One of my people doesn't have a 
>>> new enough smartphone for the app. It allows you to use robots which 
>>> are simple if then logic.
>>> I know it isn't difficult enough for many of you but it is cheap, 
>>> easy, and pretty.
>>> A nice keypad would be a good pi project to round it out though.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016, 7:32 PM Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> You have a door strike. The magnetic systems can be no or nc. If you 
>>> loopback 12v from the keypad back to the doorcontroller, you can 
>>> often trigger a fault state that releases power to the maglock. ;)
>>>
>>> On Mar 28, 2016 7:11 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I’m pretty sure you could also just smash the glass and walk in too 
>>> J
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But the door strike on mine does go back to the controller I 
>>> believe, so you couldn’t just jimmy the keypad wiring.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Not really a high security scenario since my idea was to 
>>> theoretically be able to pay $5 and enter (then walk out with anything you 
>>> like I guess).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
>>> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 6:07 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] door access control
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, pretty sure the one you have... If I remember right, I could 
>>> rip the keypad off and touch brown to red to open the door based on 
>>> the wiring diagram.
>>>
>>> On Mar 28, 2016 7:03 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've had the same problem.
>>>
>>> The local alarm company wanted like $3-4k for a two door install, lol!
>>>
>>> Here is what I did so far:
>>>
>>> I bought a controller board off of eBay that does the standard 
>>> protocol used by the strike.
>>> I bought the strike off ebay too.
>>> I bought a keypad controller off eBay.
>>> The controller came with a small locking box, and has room for a 
>>> battery backup and can use PoE.
>>>
>>> The whole thing cost less than $500 I think.
>>>
>>> I used Ethernet to connect the box to my switch and to the strike 
>>> and keypad.
>>>
>>> The controller has a simple web interface you log on to and then 
>>> add/remove door codes.
>>>
>>> I did have to interpret some Chinese manuals to figure out the 
>>> pinouts for everything, but it works as expected.
>>>
>>> What I have left to do is map the private IP of the controller to a 
>>> public IP and firewall it.
>>>
>>> And then I wanted to write a service/web api to it so I could use a 
>>> up to date 'normal' API access to add/remove door codes.
>>>
>>> Let me know if you want more details.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
>>> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 4:53 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] door access control
>>>
>>> I'm dying here. Every single system I can find is shit or costs an 
>>> arm and a leg, to the point where I'm considering starting a company 
>>> to make a better system. I just need an embedded, web based, IP 
>>> access control system. It needs to be able to control the individual 
>>> door access controllers to electronic striker or maglock to the 
>>> keypad. POE here is best. If it requires software running on a 
>>> windows PC then I don't want anything to do with it, even for those 
>>> of you who are like "put it in a vm"... no. Those resources are 
>>> reserved for properly functioning operation systems (and LXC 
>>> containers!).
>>>
>>> I've got 3 doors at one location, then 2 more doors at 2 other locations.
>>>
>>> If it has a mobile app, that's even better.
>>>
>>> I've installed a couple of HID Global and DoorKing systems in the 
>>> past and nothing about this is hard, but the chinese systems are 
>>> only made for a single location.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>
>

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