But Mike are you talking about your Bruce Wayne identity with the county, or your Batman crime-fighting tower-climbing WISP-running alter ego?
When you talk about 2 LDAP servers and $600 worth of voice and $1,500 worth of VPLS, that doesn’t sound like WISP stuff, I’m thinking it’s day job stuff. Or your WISP is doing a lot of exotic stuff. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 1:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Apps for ISP solutions Kinda the same, kinda not. The price points are different, but symmetric on-net connectivity is expensive (relative to the non-expensive areas here) and not always available. Incumbent providers don't handle them well, so they ask us to do more. It sure makes the ARPU nice when they buy $600 worth of voice, $1,500 worth of VPLS, etc. Makes the other stuff easier to swallow. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> To: [email protected], "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 1:03:47 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Apps for ISP solutions Yeah, we could give a fuck less about IT services I guess, everybody and their brother has a "solution", often for "problems" people didn't even know they have. We're more focused on building middle and last mile infrastructure. That's what's really lacking out here. You're on the outskirts of a well established major metro, probably just trying to find some service or offering to make a buck. Don't think I'm being derogatory or knocking you, I'm not, just thinking it's more of a crazy rat race where you are. I'm in the process of working with our economic development commission to connect anchor institutions together for a co-op / Native fiber project... Basically to cut transport costs by 50%, and to provide better transport infrastructure to homes and businesses in an area the size of the state of Indiana. I guess that's where my focus on infrastructure comes from. On January 7, 2015 9:53:23 AM AKST, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: Different clients I guess? Then we also do more than just e-mail. Host various other things on our vSphere cluster (soon to be clusters), VPLS transport, voice, etc. I don't know any businesses using Google and only one that uses 365 and that's only three or four HR accounts to not have to bring the 1,500 box mailserver HIPPA compliant. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> To: [email protected], "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 12:49:29 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Apps for ISP solutions Anybody we talk to either has business email through office 360 or google, or home email through google, apple, microsoft, or yahoo. They also normally are running those providers apps and services. Running your own email server for clients was awesome back in the dialup days, but that was at least a decade ago for most. On January 7, 2015 9:31:45 AM AKST, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: Doesn't take much time or money and the system is already there for supporting businesses. You do have businesses in Alaska, don't you? :-p Plus performance (for those business clients). Talking to DJ that manages the WISPA lists. My mail servers (I have seven VMs, though two are for authentication) are among the fastest to respond out of the 4k addresses that run through there. The businesses like that performance. It's always that their mail server is too slow, not mine. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> To: [email protected], "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 12:17:02 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Apps for ISP solutions Why provide a service that costs you time and money when others provide a better service for free that they (customers) have access to with your internet service? Just doesn't make any sense. This isn't 1998. On January 7, 2015 8:39:48 AM AKST, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: I think every time this comes up there's a few people (myself included) that say go Zimbra. Most just say &^*& it. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christopher Tyler" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 9:14:54 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Google Apps for ISP solutions So... Has anyone found a good solution for Gmail yet? If so I would love to hear it. Also does anyone know if the free service is also going away or was it just Apps for ISP's paid? We have one domai n that was grandfathered in and one that is paid. Just wondering if we'll have to migrate the free account as well. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
