OK, so I did go back and listen again as you asked. I can see
watching his eyes that he’s reading off the teleprompter, and when he
goes into asshole mode, it’s when he goes off script. Make of that
what you will.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHwDIvEQxrs
Nothing wrong with having speechwriters, all presidents had them, JFK
had Ted Sorensen, one of the best. Reagan had several including Peggy
Noonan.
Abraham Lincoln amazingly did not.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/ted-sorensen-on-abraham-lincoln-a-man-of-his-words-12048177/
I feel like the Gettysburg address is the best English language speech
ever written. Concise and powerful.
https://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/gettysburg.htm
Well, there’s “Friends, Romans, countrymen”, but that’s fictional and
how many people can get Shakespeare as a speechwriter?
*From:*AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2025 4:39 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Some more stats
You should take another listen, every brag he made, he followed with
how Charlie helped him achieve it. Thats a pretty big deal for Trump
to show that amount of humility.
I get a kick out of people talking about what is and isn't appropriate
to memorialize a person they knew nothing about.
In many of kirks speaking engagements, much more than going out
talking to some college kids, he would humbly mention his awe at God
placing him into a presidential orbit, legitimately humble.
There is a reason this memorial was at the scale it was and global.
This is where it shines how far out of touch with the world the left,
particularly the American left is.
They screamed so loud, for so long, they didn't realize how many had
tuned them out.
It's still growing today and will for a long time to come.
Dismissiveness is a divine blessing
On Tue, Sep 23, 2025, 4:09 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
I must be living under a rock, because I never heard all this
negativity about Charlie Kirk. As far as I knew he was like a lot
of preachers, influencers or people with podcasts, apparently very
earnest and popular with young people. As long as he didn’t have
the power to put me in jail or call up the military or something,
I didn’t pay a lot of attention. I wasn’t college age so not his
target audience anyway. I guess there were people talking trash
about him, but I must not run in those circles.
It does seem though like many people in Trump’s orbit are taking
advantage of this to advance their own agenda. Somehow “the left”
is responsible, and there must be a crackdown using the full power
of the federal government, and anyone who criticizes or mocks
Trump is guilty of calling for violence and/or insulting the
memory of Charlie Kirk.
Like what Kimmel actually said (however ill advised) or Harris
calling Trump a tyrant. Geez, I thought Trump would take that as
a compliment. I’m not advocating for Harris, but since when is
calling Trump a tyrant equal to calling for violence or somehow
attacking Charlie Kirk? Even Kimmel, he didn’t say anything
against Kirk, he was criticizing people who were using his death
to advance their own agenda and mocking Trump for pivoting
immediately from grief for his friend to bragging about his fancy
new ballroom. Too soon even for a comedian, but he wasn’t calling
for violence or attacking Charlie Kirk.
Actually, I thought what Trump said at the Kirk memorial was
inappropriate for a memorial service. It’s always about him. If
anyone was insulting the memory of Charlie Kirk, there you go.
Instead of hugging him, I wish his wife (widow) would have slapped
him. She gave a nice speech. He was an asshole, as usual.
*From:*AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2025 2:24 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Some more stats
You will certainly get him talking about it
Your serving his purpose talking about it because he did
Just like when he hints at the third term
But CK, when you get past the soundbytes and to the actual meat of
the conversation in which the soundbite was obtained, youll
understand why last sunday was the magnitude it was, and why is
growing
On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 2:13 PM Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks! This whole discussion has made me realize more about
CK than any of the "channels" professing their own agendas.
Just to be clear, I was already on the side of DEI being way
too extreme and why Kamala was going to lose. She has long
been all about who was paying her than actually having ethics.
When she was chosen by Biden I knew shit was going to hit
the fan.
I actually experienced her defense of PG&E when they let a
whole neighborhood explode and the evil that entailed.
Sorry though I still cannot get behind what tRump is doing to
the constitution and the destruction of the three sides of US
government. Washington said never to put his image on $$
while he was alive. I predict we will get tRump coinage in a
year.
On 9/23/25 12:39 PM, [email protected] wrote:
No, United back-pedaled it quicker than Tractor Supply or
Cracker Barrel.
The point is, Charlie Kirk made an theoretical though
experiment argument right after they announced it. He got
excoriated for the argument as racist. And his foes only
broadcast his final few words, not the whole argument with
rationale.
And they continue to do this as proof of how racist he
was. It is disingenuous at best and more than likely
simply an attempt to smear with a lie.
*From:*AF <[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Robert
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2025 12:29 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Some more stats
While clip 1 is the CEO a year ago doing PR and clip 2 is
funny, neither represent the actual results of the hiring
"mandate". The actual butts in seats results may be
wildly different.. Don't you think that the actual hiring
changed as of Nov 24?
On 9/23/25 11:06 AM, [email protected] wrote:
Here ya go, CEO of United Airlines:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Is5V4Ac8TQA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PjsbmsWtrI
*From:*AF <[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Robert
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2025 10:00 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Some more stats
Liars, damn liars and statisticians.. I am willing
to bet that none of these are the true numbers. &
I'll also bet that the United number was a desired
requirement, not a hard requirement, and they had 10
ways to hire around it going through a hoop or two.
Most of the major hiring is from the smaller
airlines. You don't get the big bucks until you
survive on the small bucks. I have two friends rising
through the minor airlines right now and they are
semi-prime candidates but still going through all the
hoops. There is also a lot of washout on the minor
airlines from pilots that end up finding more money
flying other paths when they need to support their
families. Air cargo and such.
On 9/23/25 9:46 AM, [email protected] wrote:
Seems airlines hire 5000 new pilots each year.
(from one unknown source)
There are 10,000 new ATP certificates granted each
year but half of them wash out or pause flying
prior to earning the coveted 5000 hours that you
need to become a first officer.
So, seems supply exactly equals demand (roughly).
Other sources are saying there is a shortage.
Now, add an artifical restriction, of that 5000
fully qualified ATPs, your HR department says half
have to be black/women.
Only 5% of that pool are women. So, there are 250
available.
Only 4% of pool are black. So that will get you 200.
450 total per year but your HR department mandated
10X that amount.
How will you fill that requirement? Only one way,
reduce the number of hours required. But even if
you took it all the way down to the 1500 hours it
takes to the the ATP you will still only have 900
available to fill 5X the requirement. And you will
have 450 underqualified people sitting in the
right seat in front.
I doubt the figure I found for needing 5000 new
pilots industry wide. I think it is low. I
found another number saying that United Airlines
(the one that had that DEI policy for a while)
uses about 2000 new ones each year.
Seems that United uses 40% of the pilots each
year? In any event, that would make the numbers
still work out in a similar fashion. Mandate 1000
where there are only 450 available assuming your
company gets all 450.
It’s math bitch, not racism.
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