On Monday 29 April 2024 22:23:44 GMT-7 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > There is worry in our community that Wayland is going to take over and x11 > > will become obsolete. > > It's inevitable. We're just arguing on timescales (I think Wayland will need > more time to mature but it'll get there).
I used to too, but I think we'll see X.org removed from non-LTS distros by the end of the decade. At a minimum, I don't see it being offered as a default for desktop distros; you'll need to install with Wayland and then later switch to X11. > You might not be, but you may run some app you download from some random > place on the internet you THINK is nice (some sodoku game trinket thing) > but it's actually trying to steal your banking details... This is only > getting worse in a world of snaps/flatpaks ... And even if most people on this list don't do that, there are people who do. I refuse to run proprietary code as much as I can, and when I can't I want it to run as a separate user (thus non-graphical) with very strong system protections in the systemd .service file. But I have several colleagues who download flatpaks and similars. Wayland has to be designed with that in mind. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Principal Engineer - Intel DCAI Cloud Engineering