I gave up on nvidia a very long time ago. They are no longer in the market of graphics card. They're building servers now. I understand that guys at Ubuntu can still patch the kernal to work with the older graphics cards but that musr have downsides we don't know about. It's not always lazy sometimes they have new features or security concerns that priorities over legacy support.
But you're right there's no such utility for checking if older drivers will run and what is involved to make it run. It could be helpful for those writing the kernels. But it's too complicated to write such tool and require and understanding of kernels and drivers which is too much for one person. Usually it's either 🤷 writing kernels or writing drivers. And since the nvidia driver is closed source, they don't really know what's in it so they have to guess and hope for the best. They whole thing is too much work. For very little gain. But again if all open source os are united then it is a fair shot at reducing redundancy and making sure the effort is serving more and more people. Your idea is great but even if it was implemented in ubuntu it will not work with other kernels. You need to do it all the kernels. Too much work. On Wed, 23 Jul 2025, 5:10 pm Gabriel S Brewster, <2110...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > I just wish we had a feature to lock in to a legacy card/kernel so updates > and upgrades will not break after a fresh install. It would solve alot of > issues. Compatibility is important when using the OS for specific use > cases. I love Ubuntu I have been running it for years now. It has such > flexibility/stability and runs without issue till something like this > happened. It's a learning experience for sure 😅 > > Maybe have a check utility to see if the graphics are supported with the > new kernel prior to applying it would be helpful with the option to stay on > the current kernel after running the script would be a good work around > till things get ironed out. It might to much work though but it is a > thought > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 2:35 PM abdelrahman elawady < > 2110...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > > > That's unfortunate. Ubuntu in particular is linux flavor of up to date > and > > full featured. Stability and legacy support isn't really what they're all > > about. I wonder why is it that all notable linux os unite and make one > > fully featured and legacy supported and security centric and all the > other > > features. > > > > Just cause it's open source doesn't mean we can't structure ourselves > > properly and get the best out of the available talents and resources. > > > > On Tue, 22 Jul 2025, 9:20 pm Daniel Letzeisen, < > 2110...@bugs.launchpad.net > > > > > wrote: > > > > > @abdelrahman: Nvidia has already ended support for the 470 driver. This > > > has nothing to do with Nvidia anymore. > > > The question is whether Ubuntu will continue to patch the driver to > build > > > with newer HWE kernels (which is possible, since other distros, > including > > > Debian, do just that). But Ubuntu does not seem to have much interest > in > > > keeping Nvidia legacy drivers patched. It is definitely not a foregone > > > conclusion that Ubuntu will fix this. > > > And again, the precedent from 390 is that they have no problem dropping > > > support for HWE kernels in the middle of the LTS cycle. See bug 2028165 > > for > > > example of that. Ubuntu suppported 390 on 5.19 HWE and 6.2 HWE, and > then > > > stopped when 6.5 HWE was released. They told users to go back to 5.15 > > > kernel. > > > > > > -- > > > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to a > > > duplicate bug report (2117211). > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2110338 > > > > > > Title: > > > Nvidia 470/470-server fails to build on kernel 6.14 HWE > > > > > > Status in nvidia-graphics-drivers-470 package in Ubuntu: > > > Confirmed > > > Status in nvidia-graphics-drivers-470-server package in Ubuntu: > > > Confirmed > > > > > > Bug description: > > > nvidia driver install error > > > > > > ProblemType: Package > > > DistroRelease: Ubuntu 24.04 > > > Package: nvidia-dkms-470-server 470.256.02-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 > > > Uname: Linux 6.14.4-061404-generic x86_64 > > > ApportVersion: 2.28.1-0ubuntu3.5 > > > Architecture: amd64 > > > CasperMD5CheckResult: pass > > > Date: Fri May 9 23:05:21 2025 > > > ErrorMessage: installed nvidia-dkms-470-server package > > post-installation > > > script subprocess returned error exit status 10 > > > InstallationDate: Installed on 2025-04-09 (30 days ago) > > > InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 24.04.2 LTS "Noble Numbat" - Release amd64 > > > (20250215) > > > Python3Details: /usr/bin/python3.12, Python 3.12.3, python3-minimal, > > > 3.12.3-0ubuntu2 > > > PythonDetails: N/A > > > RelatedPackageVersions: > > > dpkg 1.22.6ubuntu6.1 > > > apt 2.7.14build2 > > > SourcePackage: nvidia-graphics-drivers-470-server > > > Title: package nvidia-dkms-470-server 470.256.02-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 > > failed > > > to install/upgrade: installed nvidia-dkms-470-server package > > > post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 10 > > > UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) > > > > > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > > > > > > > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-470/+bug/2110338/+subscriptions > > > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > > report. > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2110338 > > > > Title: > > Nvidia 470/470-server fails to build on kernel 6.14 HWE > > > > Status in nvidia-graphics-drivers-470 package in Ubuntu: > > Confirmed > > Status in nvidia-graphics-drivers-470-server package in Ubuntu: > > Confirmed > > > > Bug description: > > nvidia driver install error > > > > ProblemType: Package > > DistroRelease: Ubuntu 24.04 > > Package: nvidia-dkms-470-server 470.256.02-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 > > Uname: Linux 6.14.4-061404-generic x86_64 > > ApportVersion: 2.28.1-0ubuntu3.5 > > Architecture: amd64 > > CasperMD5CheckResult: pass > > Date: Fri May 9 23:05:21 2025 > > ErrorMessage: installed nvidia-dkms-470-server package > post-installation > > script subprocess returned error exit status 10 > > InstallationDate: Installed on 2025-04-09 (30 days ago) > > InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 24.04.2 LTS "Noble Numbat" - Release amd64 > > (20250215) > > Python3Details: /usr/bin/python3.12, Python 3.12.3, python3-minimal, > > 3.12.3-0ubuntu2 > > PythonDetails: N/A > > RelatedPackageVersions: > > dpkg 1.22.6ubuntu6.1 > > apt 2.7.14build2 > > SourcePackage: nvidia-graphics-drivers-470-server > > Title: package nvidia-dkms-470-server 470.256.02-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 > failed > > to install/upgrade: installed nvidia-dkms-470-server package > > post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 10 > > UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) > > > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > > > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-470/+bug/2110338/+subscriptions > > > > > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to a > duplicate bug report (2117211). > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2110338 > > Title: > Nvidia 470/470-server fails to build on kernel 6.14 HWE > > Status in nvidia-graphics-drivers-470 package in Ubuntu: > Confirmed > Status in nvidia-graphics-drivers-470-server package in Ubuntu: > Confirmed > > Bug description: > nvidia driver install error > > ProblemType: Package > DistroRelease: Ubuntu 24.04 > Package: nvidia-dkms-470-server 470.256.02-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 > Uname: Linux 6.14.4-061404-generic x86_64 > ApportVersion: 2.28.1-0ubuntu3.5 > Architecture: amd64 > CasperMD5CheckResult: pass > Date: Fri May 9 23:05:21 2025 > ErrorMessage: installed nvidia-dkms-470-server package post-installation > script subprocess returned error exit status 10 > InstallationDate: Installed on 2025-04-09 (30 days ago) > InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 24.04.2 LTS "Noble Numbat" - Release amd64 > (20250215) > Python3Details: /usr/bin/python3.12, Python 3.12.3, python3-minimal, > 3.12.3-0ubuntu2 > PythonDetails: N/A > RelatedPackageVersions: > dpkg 1.22.6ubuntu6.1 > apt 2.7.14build2 > SourcePackage: nvidia-graphics-drivers-470-server > Title: package nvidia-dkms-470-server 470.256.02-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 failed > to install/upgrade: installed nvidia-dkms-470-server package > post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 10 > UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-470/+bug/2110338/+subscriptions > > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2110338 Title: Nvidia 470/470-server fails to build on kernel 6.14 HWE To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-470/+bug/2110338/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
