On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 08:38:55AM -0400, Paul Syverson wrote: > Everything's a technical term to somebody. Roughly yes I was > contrasting client/server with anything where every entity is both a > participant and part of the routing infrastructure (in that sense the > first published and deployed onion routing system in 1996 was p2p in > that there was no separation of clients and relays (that was changed > in 1997), although we assumed most end users would be connecting to > onion routers rather than running them locally). The reality is > of course more complex with a variety of centralization/decentralization > features to routing, to directory systems, etc. (The 1997-98 design > separated clients from relays, but planned for a flat distribution > of directory information---which was never fully completed.) > You want to be as decentralized as you can, but not more than that. ;>)
Maybe maybe we now have the knowledge and technology to be able to make an authority-free onion routing system... wouldn't that fulfil an old dream? > > > One reason is discussed in section 2.4 of > > > "Bridging and Fingerprinting: Epistemic Attacks on Route Selection" > > > http://www.freehaven.net/anonbib/cache/danezis-pet2008.pdf > > > For me this remains an open hard area that I continue to focus on. > > > > Then you should find GNUnet's network size estimation (nse) module > > quite interesting as it empowers cadet (the routing backend that > > Bart describes in the video I linked in the previous mail) to know > > when it is being attacked. So from my point of knowledge this issue > > has been solved, but you may want to dig deeper with the designers > > of this solution: Bart Polot and Christian Grothoff. > > I'll try to watch it when I get a chance. Thank you. Did you find some time for this? > Sorry I couldn't make it to STRINT. As ever, I'm way behind (probably > shouldn't be taking time for this exchange), but I hope to look at > it more closely as soon as I get a chance. Things you wrote papers about should be a priority, no? I would be curious as hell if somebody solved my problems. -- E-mail is public! Talk to me in private using encryption: http://loupsycedyglgamf.onion/LynX/ irc://loupsycedyglgamf.onion:67/lynX https://psyced.org:34443/LynX/ -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
