> The problem, as I understand it, is that wikipedia has: A single > hellbent user needs 10 minutes to cause trouble that takes an > hour to fix.
Not knowing the specific case of wikipedia I might suggest in general... If you do not require accounts, and are open to the net at large, you are fighting a largely unsolvable problem [1]. Learning systems and community and staff moderation can help there. Yet if your tolerance is still exceeded, you are best to move to accounts thereby enabling more powerful solutions. If you require accounts, invest time in better rollback systems so that a single click makes the user and their contributions disappear. Because of the N-way de-merges it may be necessary as staff to roll it all back to before the bad epoch and notify your community contributors that 'hey, we had to rollback abuse, please reapply your bits on such and such pages'. If that community has since died, others will eventually fill in the loss. The quicker you are notified the less to roll. Definitely not ideal I know. A wiki is a rare case of built-upon contribs, whereas other types of services really can just yank the offending user and their stream out of the system. Sorry I really don't know WP enough to comment in this subthread. I like WP though and have never noticed anything offensive on it so something is working there for that category of abuse :) [1] For instance, email spam. It is not sucessfully fought with just IP blocks at all. Only when bayes, markov and other adaptive intelligience and combined systems came online has spamfighting kept pace. Maybe now they're enough along that if they turned off the IP parts they'd still fare acceptably well. > Problem is, this kind of shits keeps happening if you don't > want to block the shitters. No one minds blocking accounts, after they've proven to be shitters. I just don't want to deny people beforehand. _______________________________________________ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
