On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 00:35:58 +0000, grarpamp wrote: ... > > you are coming off as a clueless jerk. ... > However the recent direct name calling and abuse amongst > people on this list needs to stop right now.
You failed to demonstrate an understanding of the specific situation of wikipedia which makes the response in question not entirely unappropriate. > Yes, it's a hard human problem. One for which I think there > are better solutions than just IP based blocking. Now, what would they be in this case? As I understand the problem we have very few people that are so toxic to the wikipedia community that they simply need to get blocked. If you don't block tor just like any other IP range those jerks appear from then you need either a way to identify those jerks (obviously impossible given tor's properties), or identify the good guys coming in via tor (which is something we might not want to, re anonymity). The only idea that comes to my mind is a reputation system, but how do you tell apart the cooperative newbie from the fivehundert accounts of the jerk initially? (Reputation needs to be built into a site, see stackoverflow.com, i guess. Reputation is also 'I already have an account', but the question how to allow to get one via tor without opening up for the bad guy.) > My problem is with simple IP blocking, especially when you take > out an entire shared access system such as Tor with it. It's crude > and takes the ham with the spam. Wikipedia obviously thinks different - that spam is too poisonous to accept with the ham. Andreas -- "Totally trivial. Famous last words." From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@*.org> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 07:29:21 -0800 _______________________________________________ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
