> You failed to demonstrate an understanding of the > specific situation of wikipedia
Though the wikipedia problem model does apply to other usage scenarios elsewhere, I did not intend or wish my posts as addressing the wikipedia subthread but rather the practice of performing just IP blocking in general. With the growing knowledge of users regarding their online privacy, and even interests in having anonymity and communication freedom options, more are turning to tools like Tor. When their good intents, participation in, and contributions to services are bluntly blocked by IP filters, that's a problem. We're all here because we believe and understand the same basic things. >> Yes, it's a hard human problem. One for which I think there >> are better solutions than just IP based blocking. > Now, what would they be in this case? If there's one thing this thread illustrates it's that one size doesn't fit all. Different services have different possible solutions. As you've noted, reputation (and learning systems in general) are a powerful tool over time. With the same noted exception regarding new users... the real world tells us that the first driveby from a new user bent on trouble may not ever be truly preventable. Yet input from other users and help desks into a good system can stop that user rather fast. I hesitate to call any loss an acceptable one, yet some tolerance from users and sites is necessary. If you believe the world is good, that will come naturally and not be entirely unpalatable. In English some people say 'shit happens' and continue on with their day :) _______________________________________________ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
