so be a bull shit KR On Thu, 8 May 2025 at 07:01, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote:
> Mr Rajarm, > > A person like you can better be Bull shit. I am sorry to state. For your > information I have checked Oxford dictionary. In my dictionary page 92, the > same meanings are given for "native" as given by google. > > *Perhaps dictionary too need not provide accurate meaning for you.* > > Mr Rajaram, *admit you are wrong in understanding the meaning of NATIVE. > * > > If you abuse more , it will opening to other members your *knowledge is > poor. * > > *As I always write, others may have better caliber than you. Please > understand. I am a high ranked candidate in BSc Physics of Kerala > University in 1964. * > > R. Gopalakrishnan *former ITS 7024. * > > On Wednesday, 7 May 2025 at 07:19:34 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Have you heard Bull shit that is you? I know both. Yet you wish to stay on > that unknown subject as if learned. Google need not provide so accurate > Thank you as I know your avivekam well KR > > On Wed, 7 May 2025 at 16:58, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote: > > Once again forwarded. Mr. Rajaram, your basic knowledge about native > itself is WRONG. > > GOPALAKRISHNAN > > ----- Forwarded message ----- > *From:* 'gopala krishnan' via KeralaIyers <[email protected]> > *To:* Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]>; Kerala Iyer < > [email protected]>; Patty Thatha <[email protected] > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, 7 May 2025 at 11:50:56 am IST > *Subject:* Re: [KeralaIyers] Re: [iyer123] VALMIKI ASHRAM > > > *Native- connected with the place where you were born or where you have > always lived.* > > On Wednesday 7 May, 2025 at 11:42:53 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > I do not know what to say? I did not want to add that information but now > u forced me; vandavasi was a native as it is for so many of us but never we > were born there. So too chetpet bungalow where I had gone many times as > college student and later. Wonder? Pattabiraman MP is known to me as his > son Nagarajan SSC and IAS assam cadre retd as chief secretary (I had > written in these columns) is my classmate and friend too close. Thank u for > allowing me to add one more. KR IRS 7525 > > On Wed, 7 May 2025 at 11:31, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote: > > Google search results- > > Chetput Ramaswami Pattabhiraman (Tamil: சேத்துப்பட்டு ராமசவாமி ஐயர் > பட்டாபிராமன்; 11 November 1906 – 19 June 2001) was an Indian lawyer and > politician from the Indian National Congress. *He was the eldest son of > Indian statesman C. P. Ramaswami Iyer*. He served as a Member of Indian > Parliament from Kumbakonam from 1957 to 1967 and as a Union Minister from > 1966 to 1967. > > > > Dr. C.P. RAMASWAMI AIYAR > > MILESTONES > 13.11.1879 *Born on Deepavali Day at Wandiwash, North Arcot about > two hours before dawn*. Only child of C.R. Pattabhirama Aiyar, City Civil > Judge, and Seethalakshmi Ammal (Rangammal). > > Every member is having good knowledge. Now you are wrong it is proved. If > not convinced again make google search for yourself. > > Elephant also will slip. Think before abusing others. > > Gopalakrishnan > > > > > > On Wednesday 7 May, 2025 at 07:25:51 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > How many oversights AK ? I never said C P R is my uncle; his next in Rank > contemporary was my uncle from Mankombu who worked with TVM Maharaja. And > Vandavasi may be your figment of imagination. He is from > Chetput Pattabiraman Ramasamy. Lots of oversights AK Do not resist Accept > and stay put. KR IRS 7525 > > On Tue, 6 May 2025 at 19:57, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote: > > I agree I had an oversight of reading kandiyur as Madurai and took it to > memory. How many such oversights you commit every day? So it is you better > to be called Annakavati and not me. > Coming to Late CP Ramaswamy iyer, Diwan of Travancore, is learnt from > native of Vandavasi near Cheyyar in Kanchipuram District. You have stated > he is your uncle- mother's brother. While you are from Swamimalai, how he > can be native of Vandavasi? Or he is just a cousin? > Gopalakrishnan > > On Tuesday, 6 May 2025 at 06:15:08 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > You prove your foolishness more. I had written allready you don't read > nproperky. That is anna kavadi KR > > On Tue, 6 May 2025, 16:20 'gopala krishnan' via KeralaIyers, < > [email protected]> wrote: > > What is the distance between Kandiyur and Seamimalai? What is meant by > Annakkavati¿ > > Yahoo Mail: Search, organise, conquer > <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg_315_SearchOrgConquer_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=US_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100002039&af_sub5=C01_Email_Static_&af_ios_store_cpp=0c38e4b0-a27e-40f9-a211-f4e2de32ab91&af_android_url=https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yahoo.mobile.client.android.mail&listing=search_organize_conquer> > > On Tue, 6 May 2025 at 14:10, Rajaram Krishnamurthy > <[email protected]> wrote: > Truth is bitter. Yes Harikesanallur Muthaiha bhagavathar is our relation > and I hold >100 year old saraswati with me. I DID NOT WRITE SWAMIMALAI TO > MADURAI SIR; THIS IS HOW THE MUSKETEERS WILL INSINUATE AND THEN ASSERT I > WROTE AND DENIED; MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER WALKED FROM SWAMIMALAI TO KANDIYUR > (NOT MADURAI; AND THAT IS THE WAY GOPALA WRITES WITHOUT READING IN ANGER AS > HE GETS KICKED UP BEING SUCH AVIVEKI) ; I have many more;yes my mother's > brother was subordinate with Sir C P Ramasamy Iyer trivandrum maharaja; so > what? more I have; why should some anna kavadi (if he is not he would have > behaved better) write nonsense after nonsense and be tolerated by elites? > Silly behaviours of flocks? Negligence of members only makes the tails > being wagged so fast. K R IRS 6525 > > On Tue, 6 May 2025 at 11:00, 'gopala krishnan' via KeralaIyers < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Dear friends, > > As I expected Mr Rajaram has reacted. *"What is the inborn nature of > Gopala?; illiteracy and then bouncing back?"* > > Whether illiteracy can be an inborn nature? Mr Rajaram does not think > before he reacts. Bouncing back can be an inborn nature. Before reacting he > should think twice. > > I have read his responses- He has stated his great grand father late > Muthiah was from Harikesanallur. He has also responded his greet grand > mothers have walked from Swamimalai to Madurai and returned back on the > same day after seeing their sisters. > > If I refer this in a later mail I am sure- he will refute telling he did > not wrote so and ask me to reproduce them. If I have to keep in store his > postings, I require a very large external memory for it. > > *I don't argue with Mr Rajaram*. *All of you know how much I am literate*. > No comparison I make. Arguing or exchanging mails with him only disturb > mental peace. > > Gopalakrishnan > > On Tuesday, 6 May 2025 at 09:55:01 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Orally transmitted are the versions of our Vedas and other scriptures too > ,so what? Even Greek and bible and Quron, buddisa, Jainisa are orally > transmitted only. What is the inborn nature of Gopala?; illiteracy and > then bouncing back?; KUPPURA KAVIZHNDAALUM, MEESAYIL MANN OTTALAI? > oRIGINAL IS HISTORY; THE FOLLOW UP IS OUT OF bHAKTI; lEGEND IS A STORY > UNAUTHENICATED; BUT BECAUSE THERE IS NO SAND IN THE MOUCHE, DOES NOT MEAN > HE BECAME WISE? K Rajaram IRS 6525 > > On Tue, 6 May 2025 at 09:16, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear friends, > > Leave aside abuse. It is inborn nature with Mr Rajaram. > > Whether it is Valmiki Ramayana or Uttara Ramayana , they came by oral > tradition. Let us first accept it. > > I found a satisfactory answer to my query about the legend where Lakshmana > left Sita in the forest. In the answer, he stayed after crossing Ganga in > a place and next day he traveled to Valmiki Ashram at that time in a > forest, now Bitur near Kanpur. > > After Yugas, many other places are told as having Valmiki Ashramams. All > are legends. On google search friends can read the many answers. > > Gopalakrishnan > > On Monday, 5 May 2025 at 09:30:25 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Dear all > I found a response by Mr Gopalakrishnan, having no head or tail, or > containing any sensible matter. > I thought he has a little brain to understand but being always > foolish ,he writes only as an aviveki; orelse he would have understood how > he shall write even if there are contradictions; not so authoritatively > without reading the text and system of life described in the epics. One who > cannot distinguish between a Legend and ITIOHASa and PURANA (having not > read anything but posing as if knew a lot and doing only just copy and > paste, may not know what he was writing. Before attending Ramayanam , let > me drive the nail into his head. Today at Dallas (many USA places) my > friend is living on the opposite side, 12 homes in a straight line away, > which if we walk across the homes gaps will take just 5 minutes to reach; > but it is illegal in USA; so had to take the road all around which a car > takes 10 minutes and by walk may be 45 minutes. Samje? Thus, a day travel > differs on so many factors between eras which he himself would know who > lives in an area which were barren once and now active and walking across , > could have been lost. 2 A horse arabic-like robust can travel at 25 miles > per hour (not today's horses home trained) and in a day can do 100 to 150 > miles so easily. Though uttara kanda is named as that of Valmiki as Lava > kusa sang the whole verses, still Valmiki said he is finishing the Ramayana > at the last chap of Yudha kanda, the 131st chap he is done with. A chariot > is made up of a minimum 4 horses and not english carriages. A chariot can > do the whole day and night with rest rarely. And can run >250 miles > white horse power. Even assuming uttara kanda is by valmiki, from that > kanda facts gatherers are as under which had he read a learned, would have > got it so easily. And his doubtful Thomas woke up only because of his > seetha temple at Wayanad. And without app[lication of the mind wrote > nonsense. Now facts: > > Back in Ayodhya, Rama decided to perform an Ashwamedha yagna. The > meandering horse reached Valmiki’s ashrama on the banks of River Ganga, > while he was attending Rama’s Ashwamedha ceremony. Kusha and Lava defeated > many stalwarts like Bharata’s son Pushkala, Seeta’s brother Lakshmi Nidhi, > Shatrughna, Hanuman, and Sugriva. The humbled warriors returned to the site > of the yagna with the horse. When Rama heard about the astonishing events > at Valmiki’s ashrama, he went to meet the sage. Valmiki disclosed that the > talented twins are his sons, and wanted Rama to accept Seeta and his 2 sons. > > Rama requested Lakshmana to get Seeta and his 2 sons. Even though > Lakshmana stated that Rama now longs for her company, Seeta refused to join > him but sent her reluctant sons. Rama was heartbroken to hear about Seeta’s > decision but resent Lakshmana. Meanwhile, Valmiki told Kusha and Lava to > sing all the shlokam they have memorized from the 6 books of his > composition of Ramayana. On hearing it, Rama, like many others, shed tears > of joy. Rama embraced them firmly to his body. Meanwhile, Seeta agreed to > meet Rama. At the yagna location, in the presence of other illustrious > sages, Valmiki declared that from the powers of his tapasya (austerities) > of thousands of years, he can say with confidence that Seeta is pati-vrata > (chaste). Rama admitted he knows that but the public scandal forced him to > take that decision. Seeta prayed to Bhoomidevi (Goddess Earth) to receive > her if she is pure. An extravagant throne emerged from the ground and Seeta > willingly descended into Mother Earth’s lap. This is believed to be at the > present-day Seeta samahit-sthal between Varanasi and Prayagraj in Uttar > Pradesh state. There was a continued shower of flowers from the sky. > > Rishi Valmiki’s other ashrama-s were in present-day: > > Lahore > > Ram Tirith near Amritsar in Punjab state > > Dhamtan (Dharmasthan) near Narwana in Haryana state > > Seetamata Wildlife Sanctuary in Rajasthan state > > Near Koteshwar Mahadev temple in Ambaji in Gujarat state > > Chitrakoota in Madhya Pradesh state > > Bithoor on the banks of River Ganga in Uttar Pradesh state. The Ashram of > Valmiki was in Brahmvarta, which is located in Bithoor. It is believed > that Sita spent time at the Valmiki Ashram after being exiled by Lord Ram. > Bithoor is believed to be the birthplace of the sons of Lord Rama, Luv and > Kush. > > Baleni village on the banks of River Hindon near Meerut city in Uttar > Pradesh state > > Valmiki Nagar on the Bihar state border with Nepal > > Deosal Shiva temple in Morigaon district of Assam state > > Tapoban Valmiki Ashram in Nayagram in Jhargram district of West Bengal > state. There is a Rameshwar Shiva temple nearby > > Tapovan Hill near Vaidyanath jyotirlinga temple in Deoghar in Jharkhand > state > > Valmiki ashram in Koraput district of Odisha state where Valmiki language > is spoken even today > > Turturiya in Chhattisgarh state > > Valmiki caves and its Shivalinga at Boyavandlapalle village near Peapully of > Andhra Pradesh state. It has many rock formations like Nandi, elephants, > and Rudraksha > > Aavani village near Mulbagal in Kolar district of Karnataka state > > Pulpally in Wayanad district of Kerala state > > Thiruvanmiyur in Chennai in Tamil Nadu state > > Valmiki’s siddhar Jeevan samadhi at the Ettukudi Murugan temple near > Nagapattinam in Tamil Nadu state > > Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Valmiki ashram in chao 1 to 6 kandas are many; apart from this so many > valmiki ashrams are all around the country which means they arose out of > bhakti and not duplicating or proving wrong Valmiki. Thus as per Uttara > kanda chariot dropped seetha at Valmiki ashram along the side of Ganga > river which is found to be today's Bithoor a distance today by road 150 > miles only from Ayodhya. ,in the eastern direction from ayodhya . There > could even be a forest area to go across cutting down many miles; also a > chariot with 4 horses could make it even by night; and in that uttara kanda > Rama tells Lakshman to take her by night and never was written drop by > night itself. So Mr Gopala read well before writing so derogatorily. If > still you are not convinced then something is wrong with you only. > > K Rajaram IRS 5525 > > On Mon, 5 May 2025 at 20:02, 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Dear friends, > > I found a response by Mr Rajaram, having no head or tail, or containing > any sensible matter. > Gopalakrishnan > > On Monday, 5 May 2025 at 01:31:51 pm IST, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > VALMIKI ASHRAM > > Google search result shows Valmiki Ashram was in Kanpur at a distance of > 235 KM from Ayodhya. *It is impossible to carry Sita by chariot that much > distance in the midnight. * > > Pulpalli is at a distance of 2176 KM from Ayodhya. *It is totally > impossible to carry Sita by chariot that much distance in the midnight. * > > So the legends about Valmiki Ashram at Pulpalli can be questioned. 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