Hi Willem,

Thank you for your email. I understand you were away, is there anyway of 
recovering my entire list of dives and reinstating before the one-month time, 
or even at all?

Is there a link someone knows about that could be sent me for self help?

Thank you so much!

Thank,
Callie

On Oct 15, 2023, at 1:31 PM, Willem Ferguson <[email protected]> wrote:

I am currently overseas but when I get back I will read the user manual 
carefully and see how some explicit text could be added if it does not exist 
alteady. This 'problem' is common enough so that Dirk does not need to repeat 
the full explanation every time. I will make contact contact in about a month's 
time.
Kind regards,
Willem



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On 15 Oct 2023, 18:53, Dirk Hohndel via subsurface < 
[email protected]> wrote:

The tone of your message makes me think that you are misunderstanding what is 
happening. (a) the Google group requires a Google account. But it shouldn't 
(and to the best of my knowledge doesn't) reject anyone who hasn't been banned 
from other groups for excessive abusive behavior in the past. (b) the developer 
mailing list that you tried sending an email to has been overrun with 
subscription spam and now requires explicit approval from me to add people - 
but I don't think that you want to be a developer from the way this all sounds 
(c) your description of what happens is garbled and confusing. Please try to 
explain in sequence what happened, how many devices / computers were involved, 
etc (d) any data that was at some point saved to the cloud (so that has 
successfully synced between two or more devices) is still there. You just 
managed to confuse the algorithm with the sequence of actions which resulted in 
it assuming that you wanted to replace old dives with new ones, instead of 
adding new ones. I'll repeat what I have said in dozens of answers that your 
search found already. This is an open source project - a hobby for a bunch of 
people. Angry outbursts at the developers might work for a paid product 
(newsflash, they usually don't), but when attacking someone who wants to help 
you because it's something that they like to do, it generally tends to have the 
opposite effect. If you would like help, I need two things (a) your explicit 
permission to access your cloud data (because I never interact with user dive 
data without such explicit permission) (b) a good descriptions of which dives 
should be there (how many, what rough time frame are they from) and the 
sequence of events that made everything disappear - because I need to undo 
those events in the backend, and the more information I have on what happened, 
the easier that process will be. Finally, as to your question how to avoid this 
in the future - in about half of the cases the issues is that on a PC you 
downloaded new dives before opening the cloud storage and then ended up 
overwriting cloud storage. The other half are situation where you made changes 
on two different devices without syncing first. There are a couple of other 
scenarios, but they are very rare. The simple approach to preventing this issue 
is to simply always sync with the cloud FIRST, before making any changes 
(downloading new dives from a dive computer, editing dives, etc). /D > On Oct 
14, 2023, at 21:04, Callie K wrote: > > Hello, > > I am very upset. All my data 
was lost from your app tonight. > > I edited one dive log, sync’d to the cloud, 
and it deleted four of them. Shortly there after, I wasn’t sure what happened 
and I added another dive log and sync’d it to the cloud again. This time I 
deleted all the remainder of my logs. There were about 40 dive logs. > > There 
is no way I deleted my dove log information, just no way. > > I googled this 
issue and saw numerous other posts about this problem. I even went over to your 
Google groups, but it would not allow me in, please explain how to access, that 
Google sector/forum. I wasn’t able to find any way to add that as a group, nor 
register. > > Please restore the data, your app deleted, hid, or re-distributed 
to another area. > > Also, please explain what caused this problem so as it can 
be avoided in the future. > > Thank you, > Callie > > > Please describe your 
issue here and keep the attached logs. > > > > > 
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