We are very much interested in 3.4.

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Alan Woodward <a...@flax.co.uk> wrote:

> This is on top of trunk at the moment, but would be back ported to 4.4 if
> there was interest.
>
> Alan Woodward
> www.flax.co.uk
>
>
> On 25 Apr 2013, at 10:32, Dmitry Kan wrote:
>
> > Hi Alan,
> >
> > Great! What is the solr version you are patching?
> >
> > Speaking of graphite, we have set it up recently to monitor our shard
> farm.
> > So far since the RAM usage has been most important metric we were fine
> with
> > pidstat command and a little script generating stats for carbon.
> > Having some additional stats from SOLR itself would certainly be great to
> > have.
> >
> > Dmitry
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Alan Woodward <a...@flax.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Walter, Dmitry,
> >>
> >> I opened https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-4735 for this, with
> >> some work-in-progress.  Have a look!
> >>
> >> Alan Woodward
> >> www.flax.co.uk
> >>
> >>
> >> On 23 Apr 2013, at 07:40, Dmitry Kan wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello Walter,
> >>>
> >>> Have you had a chance to get something working with graphite, codahale
> >> and
> >>> solr?
> >>>
> >>> Has anyone else tried these tools with Solr 3.x family? How much work
> is
> >> it
> >>> to set things up?
> >>>
> >>> We have tried zabbix in the past. Even though it required lots of up
> >> front
> >>> investment on configuration, it looks like a compelling option.
> >>> In the meantime, we are looking into something more "solr-tailed" yet
> >>> simple. Even without metrics persistence. Tried: jconsole and viewing
> >> stats
> >>> via jmx. Main point for us now is to gather the RAM usage.
> >>>
> >>> Dmitry
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Walter Underwood <
> wun...@wunderwood.org
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> If it isn't obvious, I'm glad to help test a patch for this. We can
> run
> >> a
> >>>> simulated production load in dev and report to our metrics server.
> >>>>
> >>>> wunder
> >>>>
> >>>> On Apr 8, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Walter Underwood wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> That approach sounds great. --wunder
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Apr 7, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Alan Woodward wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I've been thinking about how to improve this reporting, especially
> now
> >>>> that metrics-3 (which removes all of the funky thread issues we ran
> into
> >>>> last time I tried to add it to Solr) is close to release.  I think we
> >> could
> >>>> go about it as follows:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> * refactor the existing JMX reporting to use metrics-3.  This would
> >>>> mean replacing the SolrCore.infoRegistry map with a MetricsRegistry,
> and
> >>>> adding a JmxReporter, keeping the existing config logic to determine
> >> which
> >>>> JMX server to use.  PluginInfoHandler and SolrMBeanInfoHandler
> translate
> >>>> the metrics-3 data back into SolrMBean format to keep the reporting
> >>>> backwards-compatible.  This seems like a lot of work for no visible
> >>>> benefit, but…
> >>>>>> * we can then add the ability to define other metrics reporters in
> >>>> solrconfig.xml.  There are already reporters for Ganglia and Graphite
> -
> >> you
> >>>> just add then to the Solr lib/ directory, configure them in
> solrconfig,
> >> and
> >>>> voila - Solr can be monitored using the same devops tools you use to
> >>>> monitor everything else.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Does this sound sane?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Alan Woodward
> >>>>>> www.flax.co.uk
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 6 Apr 2013, at 20:49, Walter Underwood wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Wow, that really doesn't help at all, since these seem to only be
> >>>> reported in the stats page.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I don't need another non-standard app-specific set of metrics,
> >>>> especially one that needs polling. I need metrics delivered to the
> >> common
> >>>> system that we use for all our servers.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This is also why SPM is not useful for us, sorry Otis.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Also, there is no time period on these stats. How do you graph the
> >>>> 95th percentile? I know there was a lot of work on these, but they
> seem
> >>>> really useless to me. I'm picky about metrics, working at Netflix does
> >> that
> >>>> to you.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> wunder
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Apr 3, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Walter Underwood wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> In the Jira, but not in the docs.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It would be nice to have VM stats like GC, too, so we can have
> >> common
> >>>> monitoring and alerting on all our services.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> wunder
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Apr 3, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It's there! :)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >> http://search-lucene.com/?q=percentile&fc_project=Solr&fc_type=issue
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Otis
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Solr & ElasticSearch Support
> >>>>>>>>> http://sematext.com/
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Walter Underwood <
> >>>> wun...@wunderwood.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> That sounds great. I'll check out the bug, I didn't see anything
> >> in
> >>>> the docs about this. And if I can't find it with a search engine, it
> >>>> probably isn't there.  --wunder
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 3, 2013, at 6:39 AM, Shawn Heisey wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 3/29/2013 12:07 PM, Walter Underwood wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> What are folks using for this?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't know that this really answers your question, but Solr
> 4.1
> >>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>> later includes a big chunk of codahale metrics internally for
> >>>> request
> >>>>>>>>>>> handler statistics - see SOLR-1972.  First we tried including
> the
> >>>> jar
> >>>>>>>>>>> and using the API, but that created thread leak problems, so
> the
> >>>> source
> >>>>>>>>>>> code was added.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>> Shawn
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Walter Underwood
> >>>>> wun...@wunderwood.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Walter Underwood
> >>>> wun...@wunderwood.org
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
>
>

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