That approach sounds great. --wunder

On Apr 7, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Alan Woodward wrote:

> I've been thinking about how to improve this reporting, especially now that 
> metrics-3 (which removes all of the funky thread issues we ran into last time 
> I tried to add it to Solr) is close to release.  I think we could go about it 
> as follows:
> 
> * refactor the existing JMX reporting to use metrics-3.  This would mean 
> replacing the SolrCore.infoRegistry map with a MetricsRegistry, and adding a 
> JmxReporter, keeping the existing config logic to determine which JMX server 
> to use.  PluginInfoHandler and SolrMBeanInfoHandler translate the metrics-3 
> data back into SolrMBean format to keep the reporting backwards-compatible.  
> This seems like a lot of work for no visible benefit, but…
> * we can then add the ability to define other metrics reporters in 
> solrconfig.xml.  There are already reporters for Ganglia and Graphite - you 
> just add then to the Solr lib/ directory, configure them in solrconfig, and 
> voila - Solr can be monitored using the same devops tools you use to monitor 
> everything else.
> 
> Does this sound sane?
> 
> Alan Woodward
> www.flax.co.uk
> 
> 
> On 6 Apr 2013, at 20:49, Walter Underwood wrote:
> 
>> Wow, that really doesn't help at all, since these seem to only be reported 
>> in the stats page. 
>> 
>> I don't need another non-standard app-specific set of metrics, especially 
>> one that needs polling. I need metrics delivered to the common system that 
>> we use for all our servers.
>> 
>> This is also why SPM is not useful for us, sorry Otis.
>> 
>> Also, there is no time period on these stats. How do you graph the 95th 
>> percentile? I know there was a lot of work on these, but they seem really 
>> useless to me. I'm picky about metrics, working at Netflix does that to you.
>> 
>> wunder
>> 
>> On Apr 3, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Walter Underwood wrote:
>> 
>>> In the Jira, but not in the docs. 
>>> 
>>> It would be nice to have VM stats like GC, too, so we can have common 
>>> monitoring and alerting on all our services.
>>> 
>>> wunder
>>> 
>>> On Apr 3, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It's there! :)
>>>> http://search-lucene.com/?q=percentile&fc_project=Solr&fc_type=issue
>>>> 
>>>> Otis
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>>>> http://sematext.com/
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Walter Underwood <wun...@wunderwood.org> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> That sounds great. I'll check out the bug, I didn't see anything in the 
>>>>> docs about this. And if I can't find it with a search engine, it probably 
>>>>> isn't there.  --wunder
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 3, 2013, at 6:39 AM, Shawn Heisey wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 3/29/2013 12:07 PM, Walter Underwood wrote:
>>>>>>> What are folks using for this?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don't know that this really answers your question, but Solr 4.1 and
>>>>>> later includes a big chunk of codahale metrics internally for request
>>>>>> handler statistics - see SOLR-1972.  First we tried including the jar
>>>>>> and using the API, but that created thread leak problems, so the source
>>>>>> code was added.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Shawn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 

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