Here's my two cents. As a user, I like to have the volume buttons
adjust the "hardware" speaker volume and nothing else. I also like to
see an OSD showing the speaker volume state. I don't care that they
don't change line-out volume when my laptop is plugged into a dock
station.
The problem, as
Just to get one point clear and across.
The problem is not how the ThinkPad works (because you cannot change it,
and it works just like that in Windows anyway).
It is that the O.S. is failing utterly to convey information to the
users in a way that lets them gently (or not) correct their expectat
This is just a reminder that any OSD-related concerns are to be made on
bug #357673, please. There is information on that bug report that is not
duplicated here.
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Henrique,
You are giving technical reasons as to why they should be different.
While likely valid, they are missing the point.
A normal user will expect that when a button labelled with an sound icon
and an up arrow is pressed, the volume will increase and there will be
OSD telling them how close
BTW: Windows and Linux supports the ThinkPad flawlessly as long as Ubuntu is
NOT messing with those volume keys.
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In fact, the "volume buttons drive the main mixer" is exactly how Windows DOES
NOT behave. That has already been said in this bug report, but apparently some
people didn't pay atte
BTW: Windows and Linux supports the ThinkPad flawlessly as long as
Ubuntu is messing with those volume keys.
In fact, the "volume buttons drive the main mixer" is exactly how
Windows DOES NOT behave. That has already been said in this bug report,
but apparently some people didn't pay attention.
(sorry for the double post)
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Well, the problem is that you do not have three volume *keys* in your
ThinkPad, you have three volume control buttons that are tied to a
specific piece of hardware and functionality.
What IBM and the early Lenovo ThinkPads give you is the equivalent of a
volume knob for the headphone and internal
I agree with Dan and ikus060, if we have hardware buttons, we should
make them work rather than create a mapping to other keys that are
completely unrelated to volume control.
For a new user (and even an experienced one), having to learn that you
need to press Fn+Insert or Fn+Delete instead of Vol
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 04:11:36PM -, Dan Zrobok wrote:
> I fail to see how creating a completely new FN-Insert and FN-Delete keys
> to control volume (when you obviously have three buttons on the top of
> the keyboard that also control volume) will make things any easier or
> more straightforw
+1
I cannot agree with the proposed solution to map volum up and volum down to
FN-Insert and FN-Delete. It's not user friendly at all.
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Henrique,
I fail to see how creating a completely new FN-Insert and FN-Delete keys
to control volume (when you obviously have three buttons on the top of
the keyboard that also control volume) will make things any easier or
more straightforward for Thinkpad users.
We've got the three volume keys,
The IBM-style ThinkPad volume control is a digital mixer to control the
volume of the **built-in** speakers and headphones. Newer Lenovo models
(past the T60 second generation) don't have it, instead, they have just
a hardware MUTE engine.
It is impossible to deactivate the hardware mixer unless
** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 51537
Wrong handling of volume buttons on IBM Thinkpad notebooks
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Wrong handling of volume buttons on IBM Thinkpad notebooks
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+1, I'm not happy with this fix either. I like to have running keys on
my thinkpad :)
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see bug #357673 opened on notify-osd which has a duplicate now, some
other users getting confused to not get notifications about volume
change
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I see many comment like :
There should be only one master mixer.
I need to disagree. As a ThinkPad user, I use my Thinkpad with a dock
station. It's would not make any sense to have only one master because
it's will control two different output : laptop speaker and dockstation
output.
On a Think
+1
On my Thinkpad X60 I now have no more visual feedback for the volume
control keys.
The hardware volume control keys are now complete useless because the
mixer applet does not show the correct volume and muting state.
Not really better than it was before IMHO.
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+1, I'm not happy with this fix either.
I still want on screen display for my volume keys. As a Hardy/Ibex user,
I just set the (system -> preferences -> sound) Default Mixer Track to
something unneeded like CD and it worked around the double-stepping
issue. Does the display match the actual volum
I'm not sure I'm happy with that fix. It effectively makes the GUI
volume control useless, and there's not visual feedback any longer.
There should be *one* master mixer, i don't know whether that should be
the software or the hardware one, but one's enough. It sounds hackish,
but as the hardware
This bug was fixed in the package hotkey-setup - 0.1-23ubuntu10
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hotkey-setup (0.1-23ubuntu10) jaunty; urgency=low
* Drop the override of the hotkey mask for ThinkPads. This is currently
used for brightness keys, volume keys, and the ThinkVantage button:
- the ThinkVanta
I can confirm this problem; I thought that this was no longer an issue,
but it turns out the reason it wasn't manifesting on my T60 was because
I had disabled the hotkey-setup init script for testing purposes. :/
Ideally (IMHO), we would be letting userspace handle the mixer entirely,
so that the
Even worse: mute of course mutes both hardware and software mixer. Of
course you lose the nifty volume control overlay window, but Thinkpad
Linux users should already be used to that... -_-
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