Re: [tor-talk] New Astoria Tor client is said to be better than plain Tor

2015-05-24 Thread Zenaan Harkness
NOTE, if you want newbies (and occasionally potential contributors) to not be really frustrated with your communciation, perhaps define your key terms on first use. Since "AS" has not been defined anywhere in this thread (yet), I downloaded the paper (OK, that might be a reasonable desire - get pe

Re: [tor-talk] TorBirdy and Gmail (continuation)

2015-05-24 Thread Артур Истомин
On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 07:04:45PM +, Juan Miguel Navarro Martínez wrote: > Артур Истомин: > > On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 05:46:20PM +0100, James Anslow wrote: > >> `using Two-Factor Authentication (mobile phone) and > >> assigning an Application password to Thunderbird` > >> > >> I have used 2FA

Re: [tor-talk] Hola.org routes his vpn traffic over customers like tor

2015-05-24 Thread spriver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I think a big impact on something like blocking are crimes (e.g. (child) pornography, drugs, weapons, terrorism -> "the four horsemen of the infocalypse"). The media also play a major role in the reputation of an anonymity network in reporting abou

[tor-talk] Hola.org routes his vpn traffic over customers like tor

2015-05-24 Thread aka
https://hola.org/ If you install and use hola, it uses your internet and IP for other customers traffic to unblock media and such. It's basicly tor where every user is an *:* exit. Why are the police states of this world not banning it? Claims to have 46 million users. Tor has a lot less users and

Re: [tor-talk] TorBirdy and Gmail (continuation)

2015-05-24 Thread James Anslow
Артур Истомин: > > What's the purpose using TOR when Google already know who you are and even > know your phone number? > Well, that's a good question. Firstly I'll say that I don't mind Google knowing who I am. (In fact, my domain name is registered in my own name, so trying to hide my identi

Re: [tor-talk] SOCKS proxy to sit between user and Tor?

2015-05-24 Thread l.m
Hi Jeremy, Thank you for the thoughtful and thorough reply! I think the users of your software will appreciate you wanting to minimize attack surface. One thing I've noticed about mitmproxy is that it appears to only support SOCKS upstream proxies *without* authentication. It's also a http pro

Re: [tor-talk] TorBirdy and Gmail (continuation)

2015-05-24 Thread Александр
> > ​What's the purpose using TOR when Google already know who you are and > even know your phone number? > > Because you may have two Email Service Provider groups: > Used-in-clearnet ESP accounts: Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo, etc... > Tor-only ESP accounts: Riseup, Lavaboom > In the worst case, you co

Re: [tor-talk] TorBirdy and Gmail (continuation)

2015-05-24 Thread Juan Miguel Navarro Martínez
Артур Истомин: > On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 05:46:20PM +0100, James Anslow wrote: >> `using Two-Factor Authentication (mobile phone) and >> assigning an Application password to Thunderbird` >> >> I have used 2FA since creating my account and created an application >> specific password for Thunderbird

Re: [tor-talk] TorBirdy and Gmail (continuation)

2015-05-24 Thread Александр
> > ​What's the purpose using TOR when Google already know who you are and > even know your phone number? > you read my mind! -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk

Re: [tor-talk] TorBirdy and Gmail (continuation)

2015-05-24 Thread Артур Истомин
On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 05:46:20PM +0100, James Anslow wrote: > `using Two-Factor Authentication (mobile phone) and > assigning an Application password to Thunderbird` > > I have used 2FA since creating my account and created an application > specific password for Thunderbird (icedove actually). S

Re: [tor-talk] TorBirdy and Gmail (continuation)

2015-05-24 Thread James Anslow
So after filling out the Google account captcha ( https://accounts.google.com/DisplayUnlockCaptcha) using Tor browser I can now connect to my account via TorBirdy. Problem solved. -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.

Re: [tor-talk] TorBirdy and Gmail (continuation)

2015-05-24 Thread James Anslow
`using Two-Factor Authentication (mobile phone) and assigning an Application password to Thunderbird` I have used 2FA since creating my account and created an application specific password for Thunderbird (icedove actually). Still, the issue persists. -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.tor

Re: [tor-talk] TorBirdy and Gmail (continuation)

2015-05-24 Thread Juan Miguel Navarro Martínez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Long time clearnet Gmail user here and 4-5 months using Tb+TB. The only thing I did besides of being more than 4 years using Gmail without Tor is using Two-Factor Authentication (mobile phone) and assigning an Application password to Thunderbird. As

Re: [tor-talk] SOCKS proxy to sit between user and Tor?

2015-05-24 Thread Jeremy Rand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/24/2015 08:54 AM, l.m wrote: > Hi, > > Is the Socks-to-Socks proxy absolutely necessary? This could be > done as a browser plugin couldn't it? You might find the work of > the FreeSpeechMe team interesting. They have the objective of > integra

[tor-talk] TorBirdy and Gmail (continuation)

2015-05-24 Thread James Anslow
Hello all I saw a thread a while ago about a user trying to access Gmail IMAP via Thunderbird+TorBirdy and getting connections refused. A Google engineer replied and suggested two steps to establish a `known good association` with Gmail+Tor. I have the same issue - with connections being refused

Re: [tor-talk] New Astoria Tor client is said to be better than plain Tor

2015-05-24 Thread Rishab Nithyanand
Hey Sophie, On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Sophie Hassfurther < sop...@sophiehassfurther.com> wrote: > Hi Rishab, > > Rishab Nithyanand: > > I would like to stress that most of the news articles I've come across > have > > some incorrect claims. It is sad that none of them got in touch with us

Re: [tor-talk] SOCKS proxy to sit between user and Tor?

2015-05-24 Thread l.m
:o Oh, nevermind I see you're already associated with that team. Cool extension. So why the shift from plugin to proxy? --leeroy -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk

Re: [tor-talk] SOCKS proxy to sit between user and Tor?

2015-05-24 Thread l.m
Hi, Is the Socks-to-Socks proxy absolutely necessary? This could be done as a browser plugin couldn't it? You might find the work of the FreeSpeechMe team interesting. They have the objective of integration with tor which sounds a lot like what you describe. It's probably not vetted to your standa

Re: [tor-talk] New Astoria Tor client is said to be better than plain Tor

2015-05-24 Thread Sophie Hassfurther
Hi Rishab, Rishab Nithyanand: > I would like to stress that most of the news articles I've come across have > some incorrect claims. It is sad that none of them got in touch with us > before publishing their stories. I had the same impression. I do not know the author, but I read your paper and c

Re: [tor-talk] SOCKS proxy to sit between user and Tor?

2015-05-24 Thread Jeremy Rand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/24/2015 06:42 AM, s7r wrote: > Hi Jeremy > > Why do you want this and why do you think this is a good idea? > What are you trying to solve? The socks5 which Tor open is not a > simple socks5 protocol implementation, it has some customizations

Re: [tor-talk] SOCKS proxy to sit between user and Tor?

2015-05-24 Thread s7r
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi Jeremy Why do you want this and why do you think this is a good idea? What are you trying to solve? The socks5 which Tor open is not a simple socks5 protocol implementation, it has some customizations and enhancements used by Tor Browser to isola

Re: [tor-talk] SOCKS proxy to sit between user and Tor?

2015-05-24 Thread Tom van der Woerdt
Hi Jeremy, Yup, that's what I meant. Put haproxy between the user and the socks proxy and it'll nicely pass sockets to Tor instances, transparently. Tom > On 24 May 2015, at 13:30, Jeremy Rand wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > >> On 05/24/2015 06:21 AM, Tom v

Re: [tor-talk] SOCKS proxy to sit between user and Tor?

2015-05-24 Thread Jeremy Rand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/24/2015 06:21 AM, Tom van der Woerdt wrote: > Hi Jeremy, > > After reading your message I wonder whether a simple TCP proxy is > what you want. Maybe have a look at haproxy? > > Tom Hi Tom, The intention is to have end user applications lik

Re: [tor-talk] SOCKS proxy to sit between user and Tor?

2015-05-24 Thread Tom van der Woerdt
Hi Jeremy, After reading your message I wonder whether a simple TCP proxy is what you want. Maybe have a look at haproxy? Tom > On 24 May 2015, at 13:15, Jeremy Rand wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Hello, > > I'm interested in having a SOCKS proxy sitting

[tor-talk] SOCKS proxy to sit between user and Tor?

2015-05-24 Thread Jeremy Rand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hello, I'm interested in having a SOCKS proxy sitting between the end user and the Tor-provided SOCKS proxy, which can do really simple stuff like redirect from one host to another. (Just on the level of the host requested via SOCKS, not HTTP heade