Re: [tor-talk] How to contribute / takeover a sub project?

2012-03-06 Thread coderman
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:27 PM, wrote: > ... What I mean by taking over is, when you go on torproject.org, you see > "Our Projects"... note that Tor VM is not on that page. ("taking over" Tor VM would not grant you a spot ;) >> [virtual box device support] > Fortunately they fixed that. Every

Re: [tor-talk] Awareness for identity correlation through circuit sharing is almost zero.

2012-03-06 Thread grarpamp
Does this ask for using a pre existing load balancer solution? Can the host's firewall be configured to fan out (say round robin or flow based) the streams (and dns) that it would normally capture and send to a single TransPort and DNSPort... across multiple Tor's providing same access ports? I h

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic

2012-03-06 Thread The23rd Raccoon
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Seth David Schoen wrote: > and...@torproject.is writes: > > I was concerned that the graphic should not make people think that > _no one_ can ever associate them with their browsing when they use > Tor.  I've been taught to think of the GPA threat (and other traffi

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic

2012-03-06 Thread Paul Syverson
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 08:15:58PM -0500, Mansour Moufid wrote: > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Paul Syverson > wrote: > > I'm a mere four years behind in putting my work up on the web, and > > this one wasn't co-authored so nobody else did either. I'll try to do > > something about that in my

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic

2012-03-06 Thread grarpamp
Nice graphic :) Some small details not worth including... site.com under HTTPS really means site-IP to various observers between user and webserver. site-IP may or may not mean site.com in the presence of virtual hosting schemes. At the exit and beyond, knowing a site user is using Tor could be

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic

2012-03-06 Thread Mansour Moufid
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Ted Smith wrote: > On Tue, 2012-03-06 at 16:20 -0800, Seth David Schoen wrote: >> I was concerned that the graphic should not make people think that >> _no one_ can ever associate them with their browsing when they use >> Tor.  I've been taught to think of the GPA t

Re: [tor-talk] How to contribute / takeover a sub project?

2012-03-06 Thread proper
> > I am interested in overtaking the project TorVM. > > I'm not sure what > you mean by 'taking over' the project. Besides > having a copy of the source > archived in svn we aren't associated with > it. What I mean by taking over is, when you go on torproject.org, you see "Our Projects"... Addit

Re: [tor-talk] How to contribute / takeover a sub project?

2012-03-06 Thread proper
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 5:37 PM, wrote: > > > ... Nowadays VirtualBox is fully Open Source. It was not in past, but now > it is. There is a closed source extension package for VirtualBox with stuff > like rdp, but that is not required. We use only the Open Source edition which > is available for

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic

2012-03-06 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 02:27, Ted Smith wrote: > I'm not a full-time PET researcher, but smarter people than myself in this > thread seem to think the GPA is > more of a myth than a reality. Using https://metrics.torproject.org/csv/relaycountries.csv: $ grep 2012-03-05 relaycountries.csv | cut

Re: [tor-talk] How to contribute / takeover a sub project?

2012-03-06 Thread proper
> On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 08:01:36PM +0100, pro...@secure-mail.biz wrote 1.2K > bytes in 19 lines about: > : Please tell me the requirements for overtaking > the project. > > Generally, commit code. That's what we done. Everything is Open Source and documented. ___

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic

2012-03-06 Thread Mansour Moufid
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Paul Syverson wrote: > I'm a mere four years behind in putting my work up on the web, and > this one wasn't co-authored so nobody else did either. I'll try to do > something about that in my copious free time this week and send a > link. Please do, this attack you

Re: [tor-talk] How to contribute / takeover a sub project?

2012-03-06 Thread proper
I am delighted that you as one of the original TorVM developers, is answering this thread. If you are still interested in this project, you are invited to join us. > > My project, TorBOX [4] offers the already > same functionality. > > not quite; some differences that drove the original > Tor VM

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic

2012-03-06 Thread Ted Smith
On Tue, 2012-03-06 at 16:20 -0800, Seth David Schoen wrote: > and...@torproject.is writes: > > > The GPA is in every paper on the topic. But only Seth has the real > > answer. > > I was concerned that the graphic should not make people think that > _no one_ can ever associate them with their brow

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic

2012-03-06 Thread Seth David Schoen
and...@torproject.is writes: > The GPA is in every paper on the topic. But only Seth has the real > answer. I was concerned that the graphic should not make people think that _no one_ can ever associate them with their browsing when they use Tor. I've been taught to think of the GPA threat (and

Re: [tor-talk] How to contribute / takeover a sub project?

2012-03-06 Thread coderman
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:01 AM, wrote: > I am interested in overtaking the project TorVM. [1] [2] [3] TorVM has been > abandoned by it's original authors, no more development and discussions are > going on for years. sure. > My project, TorBOX [4] offers the already same functionality. not

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic

2012-03-06 Thread andrew
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 02:04:11PM -0500, te...@riseup.net wrote 3.5K bytes in 90 lines about: : The graphic here seems to be the EFF graphic from the OP in this thread. : Did you mean something else? Or did you mean to say, "there's already : one story using this graphic as proof that the NSA can

Re: [tor-talk] How to contribute / takeover a sub project?

2012-03-06 Thread Damian Johnson
> I am interested in overtaking the project TorVM. I'm not sure what you mean by 'taking over' the project. Besides having a copy of the source archived in svn we aren't associated with it. ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://

Re: [tor-talk] How to contribute / takeover a sub project?

2012-03-06 Thread andrew
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 08:01:36PM +0100, pro...@secure-mail.biz wrote 1.2K bytes in 19 lines about: : Please tell me the requirements for overtaking the project. Generally, commit code. -- Andrew http://tpo.is/contact pgp 0x74ED336B ___ tor-talk mail

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic

2012-03-06 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 23:04, Paul Syverson wrote: > The suggestion was that people _stop_ working on > defeating the GPA, which is unrealistic as both too strong (global) > and too weak (passive). While this may be true in the theoretical sense, it doesn't mean that one can't make correlation at

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic

2012-03-06 Thread andrew
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 04:04:10PM -0500, syver...@itd.nrl.navy.mil wrote 1.5K bytes in 33 lines about: : Is that a typo? The suggestion was that people _stop_ working on Yes, I meant stop. When skynet achieves consciousness, the analysis of traffic on the Internet will be the least of our proble

Re: [tor-talk] node depictions in network map

2012-03-06 Thread andrew
On Sat, Mar 03, 2012 at 11:31:02AM -0500, e...@riseup.net wrote 1.8K bytes in 55 lines about: : : I've recently started seeing pairs of in-country nodes in the network : map. I recall reading that that for security reasons only one node in : each country would be indicated, except when a circuit

Re: [tor-talk] Tor on Incredible S

2012-03-06 Thread Nathan Freitas
On 03/06/2012 05:13 PM, Anne Magarey wrote: > For the last 3 days, every time I try to start Orbot to run Tor on my > android phone, I get the message We can take this off list, Anne (just reply to this w/o cc'ing tor-talk). Happy to help you out. First, have you tried uninstalling/re-installing?

[tor-talk] Tor on Incredible S

2012-03-06 Thread Anne Magarey
I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this question. Please tell me where to send it if it's not. For the last 3 days, every time I try to start Orbot to run Tor on my android phone, I get the message Unable to start Tor: broken pipe. How can I fix this, please? Anne __

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic

2012-03-06 Thread Paul Syverson
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 12:22:16PM -0500, Andrew Lewman wrote: > > At PETS in 2009[0], Paul did a talk on 'why I'm not an entropist' and > suggested that people need to start working on defeating a mythical > global passive adversary. Maybe in the near future some government will > have the capabi

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic

2012-03-06 Thread Ted Smith
On Tue, 2012-03-06 at 12:22 -0500, Andrew Lewman wrote: > On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 11:22:33 -0500 > Ted Smith wrote: > > While I like the graphic overall, I think the "NSA as a global passive > > adversary" element is an example of the graphic being overloaded with > > information that will confuse/sca

[tor-talk] How to contribute / takeover a sub project?

2012-03-06 Thread proper
I am interested in overtaking the project TorVM. [1] [2] [3] TorVM has been abandoned by it's original authors, no more development and discussions are going on for years. My project, TorBOX [4] offers the already same functionality. And it offers even more. Almost all key features are ready an

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic

2012-03-06 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 11:22:33 -0500 Ted Smith wrote: > While I like the graphic overall, I think the "NSA as a global passive > adversary" element is an example of the graphic being overloaded with > information that will confuse/scare away most people. So far, there is one story where Eva claims

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic

2012-03-06 Thread ix4svs
On 6 March 2012 04:55, Seth David Schoen wrote: > https://www.eff.org/pages/tor-and-https Excellent stuff, thank you! In particular well done for keeping it at just the right level of complexity and not overloading it with information that will confuse/scare away most people. I like the idea o

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic

2012-03-06 Thread Ted Smith
On Tue, 2012-03-06 at 15:38 +, ix4...@gmail.com wrote: > > In particular well done for keeping it at just the right level of > complexity and not overloading it with information that will > confuse/scare away most people. While I like the graphic overall, I think the "NSA as a global passive

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and HTTPS graphic

2012-03-06 Thread proper
Nice, I like it very much. It also demonstrates the need for DNSCrypt, then "site.com" would also disappear from a few places. Can you release the source code for the demonstration? That would allow other to build up on your work. Other things like DNSCrypt, distributed DNS, alternative web of

Re: [tor-talk] [Freedombox-discuss] [tahoe-dev] Idea for a Publish/Subscribe Message System on Tahoe-LAFS

2012-03-06 Thread Eugen Leitl
- Forwarded message from David Reid - From: David Reid Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 21:26:49 -0800 To: Tahoe-LAFS development Subject: Re: [tahoe-dev] Idea for a Publish/Subscribe Message System on Tahoe-LAFS Reply-To: Tahoe-LAFS development On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 11:08 AM, darrob