Re: [systemd-devel] Hosting a sprint in SF?

2012-07-10 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/10/2012 02:33 PM, David Strauss wrote: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: >> We have been talking to the openshift guys on the side and have explained >> what we are doing. They are interested and will probably be some of

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC] VTs for multiple seats

2012-07-10 Thread Christopher James Halse Rogers
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 21:29 +0200, David Herrmann wrote: > Hi Kristian > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Kristian Høgsberg > wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 12:22:13PM -0400, Casey Dahlin wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 09, 2012 at 06:17:13PM -0400, Kristian Høgsberg wrote: > >> > No, wayland is t

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC] VTs for multiple seats

2012-07-10 Thread Casey Dahlin
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:03:37PM +0200, David Herrmann wrote: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Casey Dahlin wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 09:29:05PM +0200, David Herrmann wrote: > >> I don't think this is currently possible with the weston codebase, as > >> we require each compositor-back

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC] VTs for multiple seats

2012-07-10 Thread David Herrmann
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Casey Dahlin wrote: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 09:29:05PM +0200, David Herrmann wrote: >> I don't think this is currently possible with the weston codebase, as >> we require each compositor-backend to allow multiple surfaces. > > This part is all the conversation wa

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC] VTs for multiple seats

2012-07-10 Thread Casey Dahlin
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 09:29:05PM +0200, David Herrmann wrote: > I don't think this is currently possible with the weston codebase, as > we require each compositor-backend to allow multiple surfaces. This part is all the conversation was about. --CJD _

[systemd-devel] Possible approach for warning about needing persistent data

2012-07-10 Thread David Strauss
Right now, there's a warning to unprivileged users that they can only see their own logs. This is a misleading out of the box because such users can never see logs until they create /var/log/journal and entries exist for the user log. I would especially like feedback on whether it's going too far t

Re: [systemd-devel] Proposal: extend support for user session unit features

2012-07-10 Thread Ran Benita
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 04:20:14PM +, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Lennart Poettering > wrote: > > On Tue, 10.07.12 15:32, Ran Benita ([email protected]) wrote: > > > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:00:43AM +, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote: > >> > So in short, I'd li

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC] VTs for multiple seats

2012-07-10 Thread David Herrmann
Hi Kristian On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Kristian Høgsberg wrote: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 12:22:13PM -0400, Casey Dahlin wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 09, 2012 at 06:17:13PM -0400, Kristian Høgsberg wrote: >> > No, wayland is the protocol, weston is the compositor building >> > toolkit. If you wan

Re: [systemd-devel] Hosting a sprint in SF?

2012-07-10 Thread David Strauss
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > We have been talking to the openshift guys on the side and have > explained what we are doing. They are interested and will probably be > some of the first people to play with it, once it is ready. Would any of them be interested in partic

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC] VTs for multiple seats

2012-07-10 Thread Casey Dahlin
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 02:15:40PM -0400, Kristian Høgsberg wrote: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 12:22:13PM -0400, Casey Dahlin wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 09, 2012 at 06:17:13PM -0400, Kristian Høgsberg wrote: > > > No, wayland is the protocol, weston is the compositor building > > > toolkit. If you want

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC] VTs for multiple seats

2012-07-10 Thread Kristian Høgsberg
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 12:22:13PM -0400, Casey Dahlin wrote: > On Mon, Jul 09, 2012 at 06:17:13PM -0400, Kristian Høgsberg wrote: > > No, wayland is the protocol, weston is the compositor building > > toolkit. If you want an EGL compositor on KMS with evdev input, you > > But we don't want an EG

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd and templates

2012-07-10 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 09/07/12 23:54 did gyre and gimble: > On Mon, 25.06.12 09:43, Michal Sekletar ([email protected]) wrote: > >> Another feature which systemd currently doesn't support and it's >> closely related to previous issues, is starting instances based on >> configu

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 4/4] mount: Add a new remote-fs* target to delay logins until home dirs are available

2012-07-10 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 10/07/12 17:16 did gyre and gimble: > On Tue, 10.07.12 09:23, Colin Guthrie ([email protected]) wrote: > >> >> 'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 09/07/12 23:58 did gyre and gimble: >>> On Mon, 02.07.12 09:15, Colin Guthrie ([email protected]) wrote

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Possible fix for complex automounts

2012-07-10 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 05.06.12 21:10, Malte Starostik ([email protected]) wrote: > From: Malte Starostik > > If accessing an automount point triggers more changes to > /proc/self/mountinfo than just to add the directly wanted mount, these > changes can lead to spurious -ENODEV notifications on the automo

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC] VTs for multiple seats

2012-07-10 Thread Casey Dahlin
On Mon, Jul 09, 2012 at 06:17:13PM -0400, Kristian Høgsberg wrote: > No, wayland is the protocol, weston is the compositor building > toolkit. If you want an EGL compositor on KMS with evdev input, you But we don't want an EGL compositor. We want bare-bones KMS support. One of the things he ment

Re: [systemd-devel] Proposal: extend support for user session unit features

2012-07-10 Thread Kok, Auke-jan H
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Tue, 10.07.12 15:32, Ran Benita ([email protected]) wrote: > >> >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:00:43AM +, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote: >> > So in short, I'd like to do both: >> > >> > - have systemd chdir to $HOME if uid != 1 >> > >> > -

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 4/4] mount: Add a new remote-fs* target to delay logins until home dirs are available

2012-07-10 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 10.07.12 09:23, Colin Guthrie ([email protected]) wrote: > > 'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 09/07/12 23:58 did gyre and gimble: > > On Mon, 02.07.12 09:15, Colin Guthrie ([email protected]) wrote: > > > >> Previously, systemd-user-sessions.service started after remote-fs.targ

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 4/4] systemctl: filter shown units by their load state

2012-07-10 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 06.06.12 16:56, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek ([email protected]) wrote: > E.g. systemctl --all -t masked gives the list of masked units. > > The -t/--type option is reused. This is possible because unit types > and unit load states are called differently, so it is possible to > distinguish

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] add keyscript support to cryptsetup

2012-07-10 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 10.07.12 17:07, Frederic Crozat ([email protected]) wrote: > Le mardi 10 juillet 2012 à 16:25 +0200, Lennart Poettering a écrit : > > > > 3) systemd specific solution > > > > > > Converting keyscript= scripts to password agents introduce a strong > > > dependency on systemd. I realize tha

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/4] systemctl: check the argument to -t for invalid values

2012-07-10 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 06.06.12 16:56, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek ([email protected]) wrote: > Systemctl accepted anything as the argument for -t, and simply said '0 > units found'. It is better to catch this user error early. OK, merged the first two. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. _

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] add keyscript support to cryptsetup

2012-07-10 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le mardi 10 juillet 2012 à 16:25 +0200, Lennart Poettering a écrit : > > 3) systemd specific solution > > > > Converting keyscript= scripts to password agents introduce a strong > > dependency on systemd. I realize that you don't consider it to be a > > problem but I'm guessing it wouldn't be acc

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH/resend] systemctl: check the argument to -t for invalid values

2012-07-10 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 10.07.12 16:45, Lennart Poettering ([email protected]) wrote: > On Wed, 06.06.12 12:07, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek ([email protected]) wrote: > > > Systemctl accepted anything as the argument for -t, and simply said '0 > > units found'. It is better to catch this user error early. >

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH/resend] systemctl: check the argument to -t for invalid values

2012-07-10 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 06.06.12 12:07, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek ([email protected]) wrote: > Systemctl accepted anything as the argument for -t, and simply said '0 > units found'. It is better to catch this user error early. heya! sorry for the really late review! I like the idea, but a few comments. > --

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] add keyscript support to cryptsetup

2012-07-10 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 10.07.12 10:35, David Härdeman ([email protected]) wrote: > >I wonder what the precise usecases for this are, and whether we can't > >find better solutions for these usecases... > > I originally implemented the keyscript= support in Debian, and the way I > see it there are two different

Re: [systemd-devel] Proposal: extend support for user session unit features

2012-07-10 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 10.07.12 15:32, Ran Benita ([email protected]) wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:00:43AM +, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote: > > So in short, I'd like to do both: > > > > - have systemd chdir to $HOME if uid != 1 > > > > - extend the printf specifier list for user sessions with a specifer

Re: [systemd-devel] Proposal: extend support for user session unit features

2012-07-10 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 10.07.12 05:00, Kok, Auke-jan H ([email protected]) wrote: > Lennart, Kay, all, > > I've run into several issues with the basic support that is present in > systemd, and I think we need to extend some of the basic bits in > systemd to support additional specifiers, as well as chang

Re: [systemd-devel] Hosting a sprint in SF?

2012-07-10 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/09/2012 06:24 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Fri, 29.06.12 09:34, David Strauss ([email protected]) > wrote: > >> >> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 5:58 AM, Lennart Poettering >> wrote: >>> It's going to be an LXC/libvirt/systemd/SELinux ha

Re: [systemd-devel] Proposal: extend support for user session unit features

2012-07-10 Thread Ran Benita
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:00:43AM +, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote: > So in short, I'd like to do both: > > - have systemd chdir to $HOME if uid != 1 > > - extend the printf specifier list for user sessions with a specifer > that can be used in various fields to refer to at minimum $HOME ("%h" > ?)

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] analyze: work around bug in Python 3 Cairo bindings

2012-07-10 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 10.07.12 04:16, Shawn Landen ([email protected]) wrote: > From: Shawn Landden > > The python3 version of the Cairo bindings doesn't know how to write > to sys.stdout/sys.stderr, which changed from from accepting str in > python 2, to accepting a byte stream in python 3. > > Work ar

Re: [systemd-devel] GDM service file

2012-07-10 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 10.07.12 08:27, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" ([email protected]) wrote: > > On 07/09/2012 11:48 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > >BTW, as a follow-up to this. In this Fedora feature page you find what > >I'd propose to use as .service file for the various display managers: > > > >https://fedor

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] add keyscript support to cryptsetup

2012-07-10 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 10.07.12 07:36, Tollef Fog Heen ([email protected]) wrote: > > > A use case for keyscript is something like > > > https://github.com/tfheen/ykfde/blob/master/helper which (while not > > > really a keyscript as it is) implements integration with Yubikeys. Doing > > > that with the full password

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] add keyscript support to cryptsetup

2012-07-10 Thread David Härdeman
On Mon, Jul 09, 2012 at 10:49:56PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: >On Fri, 29.06.12 00:56, David Härdeman ([email protected]) wrote: > >> Debian's cryptsetup package supports the keyscript= option in /etc/crypttab >> >> This patch is a first attempt at implementing support for the same option >>

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 4/4] mount: Add a new remote-fs* target to delay logins until home dirs are available

2012-07-10 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 09/07/12 23:58 did gyre and gimble: > On Mon, 02.07.12 09:15, Colin Guthrie ([email protected]) wrote: > >> Previously, systemd-user-sessions.service started after remote-fs.target. >> If the user had any NFS mounts defined, this prevented logins until these

Re: [systemd-devel] GDM service file

2012-07-10 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/09/2012 11:48 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: BTW, as a follow-up to this. In this Fedora feature page you find what I'd propose to use as .service file for the various display managers: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DisplayManagerRework Is not that proposed unit on that feature

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] analyze: work around bug in Python 3 Cairo bindings

2012-07-10 Thread shawn
I've looked into this issue a bit more don't commit inaccurate commit messages >From 5fb21257ad39ba81c1db6e402b9bbf91d5bbb640 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Shawn Landden Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 03:57:18 + Subject: [PATCH] analyze: work around bug in Python 3 Cairo bindings Python 3 Cairo bi